++ INJUNCTION ++

179 comments:

Anonymous said...

You are too late. Benedict White broke the story

Mr Eugenides said...

Well, at least we know where the Attorney-General stands. [insert joke here]

Anonymous said...

It beggars belief that in this day and age they think an injunction will stop the news from being outed.

Have they not heard of that WorldWideWave?

Anonymous said...

Bloody typical - excrement striking the whirling blades and the blogospere's greatest investigative journalist is on the piss.

Just like the MSM really.

Anonymous said...

Benedict White implies that the suppressed story concerns Lord Levy.

Martin Shapland said...

Any idea why about 20 seconds ago the BBC news story reporting th einjunction had Ruth turner as a pic, but is now gone...

I'll put money on her being arrested...

Anonymous said...

I'm hearing that the BBC got hold of a *HIGHLY* incriminating email. They were going to lead the 10 O'Clock News with it so Goldsmith got an injunction.

Anonymous said...

Guido LOL, well now your back I can go on the piss.

Laters :)

Anonymous said...

Even Mr. Dale's diary beat you to it, and he's over the pond !

Anonymous said...

What money we would have never even had that short piece on the Beeb if Ian Dale hadn't blogged it?

Anonymous said...

"Any idea why about 20 seconds ago the BBC news story reporting th einjunction had Ruth turner as a pic, but is now gone..."


How adorable. Reminds me of the time the Guardian had a story about Emile Heskey, and kindly illustrated it with a picture of a donkey kicking a ball.

Anonymous said...

Mr Eugenides - we must remember at this time that the Attorney Geneal is a multi-faceted individual. On the one hand he has a duty to suppress inconvenient new stories. On the other hand he has a duty to decide whether a prosecution should take place. No one who has observed NuLab's approach to 'joined-up government' could possibly believe that these two hands are connected in any way.

Anonymous said...

I hear they may be arresting Tony Blair ... for being a tosser.

Anonymous said...

apparently the BBC say Nick Robinson is going to report on this.
Wasnt he the man who said it was a storm in a teacup and would lead to nothing?

Anonymous said...

i think that is a good enough reason to arrest him and throw away the key

Anonymous said...

Standing on de world stage I want to ask just one question -

Why do Socialists only drink de herbal tea?

Ansa: Because all proper tea is theft.

Nows get on wit de weekend..

Anonymous said...

The great thing about the blogsphere is that we all team to break the news the MSM is too shit scared to report.

Iain Dale, Guido, Benedict White and several others will have the full story out within 24 hours - whatever Blair and his puppets wry to do.

Anonymous said...

It's on now.

Guido do me a favour don't try and pretend a blind item on a smoking gun with NO DETAIL WHATSOEVER is the same as Benedict White breaking that itwas an email who it was from etc

Anonymous said...

BBC gets story
UNFORTUNATELY
Nick finds out and tells Tom
Tom tells Tony
Tony orders A G to stop it
AG gets it stopped

None of the above is remotely true just a fairytale

Anonymous said...

I hear that the police have already dismissed the email as not something relevent to their inquiries. That's why the attorney general felt the smear was too much.

What on earth are the BBC doing trying to lead their news programmes with out of context emails? Even more disgraceful was their reporting that they couldn't report something they have been banned from reporting. This is just macho bullshit after their Hutton inquiry fuck up.

Politics should not be about endless smears and disinformation. That only hurts all of us in the end. It must end here and now! Join with me!

Anonymous said...

"Iain Dale, Guido, Benedict White and several others will have the full story out within 24 hours - whatever Blair and his puppets wry to do."

You are half right: they will have a story out which is going to contain perhaps speculation, perhaps wistful thinking.

Anonymous said...

Quick, switch on Newsnight to see Robinson eating his hat.

Anonymous said...

"The BBC said its reporting of the story is a matter of public interest."

Nevertheless, they are not going to report it.

Anonymous said...

dear mark green astro-turf - what colour is the sky in your world?

Anonymous said...

Labels: Ruth Tuner.... interesting

Anonymous said...

Mark Green said...

cut a lot of crap

Join with me!

Certainly, bend over.

Anonymous said...

Displacement activity =

New Labour creeps, shit scared about the breaking news and unable to move the agenda off it, vent their spleen on poor old Guido.

"You're shit Guido", "You didn't break the story" - but, you Nu Lab troll twats, all of us, including YOU, come to Guido to find out what the fuck is happening.

Five years ago we wouldn't have had anywhere to go to get the facts.

Anonymous said...

If the Beeb had any balls, they would pass it to a foreign news channel..

Anonymous said...

As a newcomer to this game is it worthwhile watching this & other blogs all night or should i just go to sleep?

Will it speeden the demise of the master of ambiguity if stay awaake.

Guido - where/how can I make money on the current events?

Anonymous said...

"Politics should not be about endless smears and disinformation."

But Mark Green, half an hour ago on the Friday caption thread you wrote:

“It seems Guido Fawkes is now totally out of the loop on all matters to do with the cash for honours inquiry. Time to get a real job, me thinks?”

So you are no stranger to smears and disinformation, are you?

Or was that a different Mark Green?

Anonymous said...

New Labour astroturfers alert! Emergency, Emergency! Hit the blogs NOW! The Line-To-Take is that it's all a fuss about nothing, police think there's nowt to it, etc etc.

Anonymous said...

Rubbish Guido - too little too late... off to "White's" for my news.

You've blown it, unlike in 1605.

Anonymous said...

Dake says he knows who is subject of EM

macles said...

Mark Green (aka MarkGreen0) - the depressing and predictable result of NuLab IT research and development spending!

Anonymous said...

Dar Guido

How can we hel

GE

Anonymous said...

sorry Dale

Anonymous said...

OT - but more shite from Nick Clegg on Newsnight...

Anonymous said...

Do we have any info on the injunction itself.
Was it against the BBC, BBC News, BBC1, because if it was specific then one of the other BBC channels may think it worth putting out...

May be worth keeping an ear on the BBC radio channels.

Anonymous said...

Troll at 10:48

White has gone to the pub.

One place you can't go for your news is the BBC because you and your chums have got them by the short and curlies.

Anonymous said...

for those of you who don't already know mark green is a blairite apologist who stays up until 2 am each night trying to be the first person to post on guardian website politics blog

He has about as much inside knowledge as does maryann soontobeadesperatehousewife of The Times

Anonymous said...

failed, failed and failed. The end of Guido as a useful source of info - has been on the cards for quite a while - but bubble now definitely burst.

Unknown said...

bof2bs - depends, doesn't it? I'm looking at Betfair now.

The price on Blair going by the end of March has come in somewhat, but is still long at 16 to 1. If it were something that serious someone in the know would be taking that easy money.

The price on April to June has come in a bit, and I've increased my position in it slightly, but again it's not a very significant shift.

If there were an obvious way to make money, everyone would have taken it!

Anonymous said...

I hope these trolls got their UFO fuelled up, coz there ain't nowhere on this planet going to be safe for them when this government falls....

Anonymous said...

Poor deluded nu-lab astro -turfers

'It will but skin and film the ulcerous place, Whilst rank corruption , mining all within, Infects unseen'

Anonymous said...

Annon 10:53
I know, every morning I turn to the Guardian website, and every morning markgreeno never fails to make me laugh at the purile rubbish he comes up with.

Anonymous said...

bof2bs...Perhaps Guido knows the subject of the email.. Note how he has tagged the article with an individuals name.

Anonymous said...

anon 10.55pm How you wish

Anonymous said...

My only prediction tonight was correct though. Guido was in the pub!

Anonymous said...

JDC thanks for that - bookies / odds movement often a good source of info. but not always right

Anonymous 11.01 Good point

Anonymous said...

After a bottle and a half of wine I'm going to bed.

If Blair's still there in the morning I won't be at all suprised.

Bastard!

Anonymous said...

doh!

better luck next time guido

VUK said...

I thought we could get the real truth from the blogs, so far all the blogs seem very quite, we need a blogger to tell us the truth of course within the grounds of the law of the land, we need men of character, tell us what in the hell is going on at No10

Anonymous said...

I dont see trolls but I see windups,our Guido is only one person , know doubt our trolls have many people working for them.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Troll at 10:48

White has gone to the pub.

Actually I changed my mind and broke out the emergency supplies!

Anonymous said...

This is the BBC news report. it says nothing really.....


http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/nol/shared/img/v3/icons/video_text.gif

Anonymous said...

Sorry ignore the last link, usze this

http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_6410000/newsid_6414300/6414313.stm?bw=bb&mp=rm

Anonymous said...

Whatever you might want to say about Nick Robinson (and having been banned from commenting on his blog I'd have plenty to say) he has admitted at least three times that he was wrong, wrong, wrong about the Police investigation.
At least give the speccy goit that much credit.

We live in interesting times, do we not? A decade ago Blair had the media by the short and curlies. Now the politicos are starting to wake up to the power of the web.

Anonymous said...

The kids are sending back their Guido T-shirts in disgust. They thought you knew everything, but it turns out you were just another blogger. Shame.

Anonymous said...

This is nothing to do with Levy or Turner; they have already been arrested so why issue and injunction now?

I suspect it is something to do with Bliar, perhaps he has been interviewed for a third time, and this time it is under caution. This would mean that he would be contemplating resignation and would need a little time to prepare the Government to be ripped apart.

I can think of few other things that could have hymee running to get an injunction.

Julian said...

Better to have been in the pub tonight than in a certain well-known restaurant in Kensington Park Road, where my better half and myself were treated to half an hour of a former Labour leader holding forth on his own virtues and alternated with burps, hiccups and farts. Put up with it until 10.00 and told the management that I expected at least 50% knocked off the bill and they could send it to the bloated windbag at the next table.

Labour MP's should certainly not be let out in polite society without at least one minder and a decent colostomy bag.

Anonymous said...

Speccy goit? Jog on, you si.

Anonymous said...

Shotgun - hope you're right but think many of the tossers in the know would be queing up to make money on betfair etc

Haribo said...

"This is nothing to do with Levy or Turner"

Wrong.

Anonymous said...

Hey anonymong 11.17. Keep reading the comments here at Guido Fawkes.

I think someone is going to post a comment here within the next hour or so that will make things much clearer...

Then you'll have to stick your ludicrous, anti-Guido propaganda up your arse...

...or you could just switch off because, of course, this site never gets the dirt, does it?

Bet you're still reading when the comment comes up.

Anonymous said...

All you anonymous folks gather round to shout at Guido saying he's lost it, yet you're all sat here glued to his blog. Hypocrites.

Anonymous said...

I want a refund for my Guildo Fawkes' water bed. The wife doesn't find it very comfortable in any event.

Anonymous said...

The Met have now said that they asked for it to stop it obstructing their future inquiries.

Anonymous said...

I think someone is going to post a comment here within the next hour or so that will make things much clearer...

You mean someone is going to cut and paste from tomorrow's newspapers online? Very cutting edge.

Anonymous said...

As far as I can see this is the most currently active blog & as rightly pointed out why just keep loggged in to criticise ..... blog off elsewhere

Scary Biscuits said...

I agree with anonymous 10.35: Guido can't claim that "The email is news to the BBC, not readers of this blog". A teasing picture of a smoking gun does not tell us an email has been found. If you want credit in future, Guido, you need to find bigger balls.

To all the other bloggers assuming that the AG has had this suppressed this for his mate Tony, give the man a break. He's doing it at the request of the police - the guys on our side, remember?

Many of the leaks in this enquiry have come from Blair's official spokesmen and there's a good reason for that. By selectively releasing bits of information they can maintan some influence over journalisgts and try to limit the political damage. Also, if they're lucky, undermine the police's evidence.

Anonymous said...

Nick Robinson made a statement on his blog.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/nickrobinson/2007/03/strict_limits.html

Anonymous said...

"You mean someone is going to cut and paste from tomorrow's newspapers online? Very cutting edge."

You won't read what's coming up here in any of tomorrow's papers, my dear Labour mong.

jailhouselawyer said...

I have blogged it and named names.

Anonymous said...

jailhouselawyer,

Have to disagree with your conclusion. I think that other evidence is floating around.

If the Police called for the injunction rather than just an embargo as they did last time, then that makes me think that its someone more senior.

Judging by the number of trolls and NuLab astroturfers to have hit this site this evening, something they tend to do when Brown or treasury bad news is about, this leads me to think that this could involve Gordo.

Anonymous said...

ianp - the difference this time is that the media already had the story. The embargo only worked because the lobby didn't know that Blair had been questioned, and so didn't know that there was anything to report on.

Anonymous said...

a million pieces - I first encountered Guido when trying to find out what was the Blair family secret that the media had agreed not to report (which, incidentally I heard referenced, much, much later, on a Five Live phone in - you could also hear the presenter/editor have a kitten as they realised what the caller had just said). Since then I have learned an amount of stuff about Westminser and UK politics from GF but it has tailed off significantly. Recently there is neither humour or disclosure and my visits have reduced significantly. Tonight's CFH injunction story made me head straight for here and what do i find? SFA - about the same as the MSM. Next time I hear od=f some political intrigue, scandal, rumour, whatever GF will not be my first port of call. Over and out.

Anonymous said...

jailhouselawyer

Fair comment, I accept that.

Another thing picked up from Nick Robinsons blog was
The spokesman added that Lord Goldsmith - a member of the Cabinet - was acting independently of the Government in seeking the injunction.

If this transpires to be on behalf of the Labour party rather than Government, then one assumes that taxpayer money should not/was not used in obtaining the injunction.?

Anonymous said...

If it is true that "someone senior" whether Ruthie or not, can't see how Blair can get out of this one...."It was nothing to do with me and I knew nothing about it" somehow doesn't wash.
Should be an amusing morning news-wise. The shampoo is on ice.

Anonymous said...

Benedict White has got lots of detail on the injunction & likely future course of events.

Anonymous 11.55 goodnight & goodbye

Anonymous said...

anonymous 11.55 = Tim Ireland, lying through his teeth as usual.

Anonymous said...

Hold on, folks. It's coming.

Anonymous said...

Hang on.. pennies are dropping here.

If the Police requested the injunction, then the AG would have been acting on behalf of the government, not independent of it.

Have the police made a statement yet?

Benedict White is reporting it involves Levy but not Turner.
so my money is still on Gordo at the other end of the email.

Anonymous said...

So what could the injunction be about? I reckon Bliar has been interviewed under caution and this information was to be suppressed to avoid putting the cops in the awkward positions of going easy on a suspect or bringing down a government.

The reason the leaks have stopped will be that the investigation is reaching a conclusion and therefore there will be no briefings to the Public Administration Select Committee, members of whom are probably the major leakers.

Anonymous said...

"The application for an injunction was made by the attorney general this afternoon at the specific request of and in co-operation with the police because of their concerns that the disclosure of certain information at this stage would impede their inquiries.

"The attorney general acted in this respect completely independently of government, and in his independent public interest capacity."

In response, the BBC said that the report was "a matter of public interest."

Per Digital Spy - not much help

Anonymous said...

If this is about an email, possibly from Levy to Bliar, or to Powell saying "discuss with TB"???

Anonymous said...

I see, so because Guido didn't get this story up before others that means he's automatically useless and we should never read his blog ever again.

Newsflash astro-turfers: we don't expect Guido to break every important news story relating to government sleaze. We appreciate the fact that he persists and does break some.

Anonymous said...

Guido's labels have changed - unlike Brown's odds on betfair! so my (very limited) money is on Levy!!!

Anonymous said...

Best guess, this injunction was issued by Tony Blair - he has been interviewed under caution.

Anonymous said...

I have a theory.
Whatever this turns out to be,

Robinson, was leaked to by Number 10 something, possibly an Email.
So they could discredit the Police investigation, and accuse the police of leaking, so weaken any possible future prosecution.
The Police found out about it, and they then issued the injuction, thus hopefully cutting off one escape route out of a court case.
Discuss.
kf

Guido Fawkes said...

The very same thought occurred to Guido and has actually been worrying Guido for the last few months.

That they would try to claim the reporting prejudiced a trial.

Anonymous said...

BBC is now reporting that Liberal Democrat leader Sir Menzies Campbell told BBC Two's Newsnight that "the attorney general acts in the public interest, and in particular, he's got an interest to ensure that no possible prosecution is prejudiced or that no possible defence to a prosecution is prejudiced".

He added: "I think what one might be able to infer from the fact that he felt it necessary to seek this injunction is that he at least contemplates the possibility that a prosecution of some kind will follow."

Anonymous said...

Oh oh, the wannit-to-bes, conspiracy lovers, NuLab haters and general lunes are starting to gather and feed off each other.

All rational people: Abandon Blog, Abandon Blog, Abandon Blog.

Anonymous said...

hope all you astroturfers are getting well paid for this garbage you bleat.

seems such a waste of effort to me.

Anonymous said...

Anon 12:39 - You seem entirely unable to do so, is this because you're irrational?

Anonymous said...

You first my friend anon 12.39

PS Public Interest is in my experience a complex area of law

Anonymous said...

Aye, I wouldn't put anything past the shifty bastards,
but it proves 'Inspector Knacker' is wise to their 'little games'
Which should make them very nervous, at the least!

Though surely Blair would walk on any insanity please!
kf

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
"Oh oh, the wannit-to-bes, conspiracy lovers, NuLab haters and general lunes are starting to gather and feed off each other.

All rational people: Abandon Blog, Abandon Blog, Abandon Blog."

Except you, New Labour parasite, eh? Nightwatching the blogs as you shit your pants at the prospect of your corrupt empire collapsing around your head.

When the handcuffs go on, we'll be cheering - and you'll be in tears.

Anonymous said...

Here's what we do-
Get BBC Scotland or Scottish TV or the Glasgow Herald etc to run the story. Its a different legal system and the Attorney General has no jurisdiction. The Lord Advocate might but it would be difficult to convince a Scottish Judge to grant an Interim Interdict. Anyway the Lib-Lab pact are incaple of acting quickly.

Anonymous said...

"Oh oh, the wannit-to-bes, conspiracy lovers, NuLab haters and general lunes are starting to gather and feed off each other.

All rational people: Abandon Blog, Abandon Blog, Abandon Blog"

Sounds like he has lost it already.

Its not you Tone is it?

Anonymous said...

TURN ON SKY NEWS - BLAIR IS GOING TO RESIGN TOMORROW!!!

Anonymous said...

"That they would try to claim the reporting prejudiced a trial."
I must admit that I have been thinking along those lines more and more recently.
I don't actually think that people close to the enquiry in the Met have been leaking, in fact I am amazed that so many details have remained quiet for so lone. Just look at the way that they were able to keep a lid on the fact that Blair had been interviewed again until they gave the green light for it to be released.
Also think that it has been too convenient that these dishonest spin merchants have been very free with their attacks on the police over their alleged leaking.

Anonymous said...

Very generous hat-tip to Benedict, Guido.

Well done and good luck with your own inquiries. :-)

Anonymous said...

Nice try CBS news right now!!!!

Anonymous said...

to 12:39

I remember hearing the same kind of panic in the voices over the radio's of the border guards the night the berlin wall came down.

they knew what the result would be, but try as they might, the will of the people will never be suppressed.

time to give it up, the inevitable end is coming.

Anonymous said...

Or indeed the Captain of the Titanic.
I wonder if the Band will play on as the Good Ship New Labour slips between the waves.
kf

Anonymous said...

Perhaps Blair's old band

http://www.uglyrumours.com/

can play for them - they have a new single out.

Anonymous said...

Doh! what a spoon i am for not realising that the GF silence on latest CFH revelations was out of concern for impact on (possible)subsequent legal proceedings.

BTW How come no one has yet stated the obvious (to a GF regular) that all this is a Broon conspiracy to force Phoney out? [So the Cons realise that they are in with a chance, BUT DC is not their saviour, so he must be replaced. By Norman 'I shall return' Tebbit and then all will be well with the UK? (following Con, UKIP, BNP election alliance)

Anonymous said...

"TURN ON SKY NEWS - BLAIR IS GOING TO RESIGN TOMORROW!!!"

I wish.

Anonymous said...

Been stood watching Downing Street tonight. A very large vehicle reversed in - thought at first it was a removals lorry. Turned out it was just a very, very large delivery of nappies....

Anonymous said...

On line Standard extracts - bit more

A Downing Street source told PA that the first No 10 knew that an injunction had either been sought or granted was when they saw the 10 O'Clock News.

The Metropolitan Police issued an identical statement to that made by the Attorney General's office.

Liberal Democrat leader Sir Menzies Campbell said that the implication of tonight's injunction was that Lord Goldsmith thought it possible there may be a prosecution in the cash-for-honours affair.

Sir Menzies told BBC2's Newsnight: "The important thing to remember is that the Attorney General acts in the public interest and in particular he has an interest to ensure that no possible prosecution is prejudiced and no possible defence is prejudiced."

The inference of Lord Goldsmith's actions was that "he at least contemplates the possibility that a prosecution of some kind will follow", said Sir Menzies.

He added: "This is all pretty sensitive territory and we have to be very careful about speculating beyond the facts that are presently available."

Sir Menzies' chief of staff Edward Davey MP said: "It may be that this injunction was needed to protect the integrity of an ongoing police investigation.

"Yet the fact that the BBC felt that it was in the public interest suggests that we may be looking at yet another example of Government cover-up.

Anonymous said...

Would a Con/UKIP/BNP alliance end the discrimination against English people in England?

Anonymous said...

Nelsons enough for me - well done Guido & keep at them!

Anonymous said...

When the day comes that I am obliged to pay Guido for the information and humour that he provides, I will have the right to criticise his work-rate and his hit-rate.

Until that time, I shall continue to be extremely grateful for the existence of this site - if people don't like it, they can sod off.

Anonymous said...

I cannot sleep- surely some one out there can dish the dirt?

Anonymous said...

judith said - if you were obliged to hand over spondooliks to Guido for 'the information and humour that he provides' I suspect that over the last few months your account would be very much in credit - although that obviously depends totally on one's definition of info and humour?!

Anonymous said...

"Would a Con/UKIP/BNP alliance end the discrimination against English people in England?"

And that has what to do with this story? And do you really think that an authoritarian socialist party like the BNP really belongs with the other two? Note also that all three parties are Unionist parties.

Back on topic: I'm off to bed but will look forward to reading more tomorrow. Wonder if it's in the papers.

Anonymous said...

Tell me, can anyone tell me the colour of the fans in
no 10,
Ruths pad
Levy's Castle?

Which one has undergone gone the colour off a dirty nappie?

Anonymous said...

Interesting how the the astro turfers came out of hiding tonight and went into over drive

too little, too late boys

Anonymous said...

If 1:37 cannot sleep, I suggest its probably because he worried as to whether he will still have a job on on Monday..haha

Anonymous said...

astro hater,

totally agree, but far more than usual for a blair cover up. NuLab must be using the last of its funds on this one..

Anonymous said...

Why do I feel like Im going to be dissappinted when I find out what all this is about?

Anonymous said...

Attorney General halts BBC probe
Attorney General, Lord Goldsmith
Statement said attorney general acted in 'public interest capacity'
The Attorney General has obtained an injunction against the BBC to stop it broadcasting an item about the cash for honours investigation.

The injunction was obtained on Friday night at a hearing which lasted around two hours at the Royal Courts of Justice in London.

Lord Goldsmith's office said he had acted "completely independently of government" on the matter.


So that's okay then..M'lord "Shagger" Goldsmith has finally stepped up to the plate to reward his sponsor for elevating himself above the level of an ordinary Livepool barrister.

Do these people have no shame?

Anonymous said...

and the wanker realised he was all alone

so the choice was simple, amuse yourself again tonight, and then he saw the Hippo arse and the pillar box lips in the distance,
his spirits rose

until the Hippo arse said,
'Fuck off , eat your porridge, and stop dreaming'

and the wanker dreamed of love lost, the lovely lady with the soft lips, Strewth Telly, who never came out of Yates Wine Lodge

and the forlorn book lay unread on the cell floor
'The Ides of March'

The Military Wing Of The BBC said...

Meanwhile somewhere in Downing Street:
It was a peculiar, cracked,
braying, jeering note: in his mind Tone/Gordo called it a yellow
note. And then a voice from the telescreen was singing:

Under the spreading chestnut tree
I sold you and you sold me:
There lie they, and here lie we
Under the spreading chestnut tree.

Anonymous said...

Having read Jailhouselawyer's self styled EXCLUSIVE it now seems that the reference to Ruth KELLY on Master Guido's Blog has been removed.

The name was Ruth TURNER you pillock.

Lawyers, jailhouse or otherwise, should not make such stupid and elementary mistakes.

I wonder if I should report this to Ms. Kelly's lawyers. They may wish to have a word about this as the reference was made TWICE.

Consequently, a claim of typographical error would fail.

jailhouseLAWYER?...................No, axe wielding killer.

Facts dear boy, facts.

Anonymous said...

He spent 35 years in prison. The longest jail sentence for an unpaid parking ticket in history.

My advice to JHL would be get himself a real lawyer next lifetime.

Anonymous said...

Guido posted generous congratulations to Benedict White over on Benedict's blog, that is big of you Guido. Well done.

Congrats Benedict for breaking the story, small blogs have their day in the sun too

Anonymous said...

Have reporters within the BBC being disseminating 'leaked' insights into the police investigation so as to, knowingly, compromise a trial/the possibility of a trial? The judges, by granting an injunction, would seem to think that this is a possibility.

Perhaps we should look away from events at No 10, albeit briefly, and look more closely at how these 'leaks' have been handled at the Beeb. Perhaps the police, too, might be making some enquiries in this direction? Has anyone followed the details of this story? Who has been getting the 'leaks' first? Let's name the names.

'When the people heard the sound of the horns, they shouted as loud as they could. Suddenly, the walls of Jericho collapsed, and the Israelites charged straight into the city from every side and captured it."

Anonymous said...

Most newspaper reports finish with something like "[Blair] has not been arrested or interviewed under caution." Which means he has.

MorrisOx said...

Prophet et al,

It doesn't matter what the BBC has or hasn't done. The contents of this website and a number of others could be used by any half-decent silk as evidence that a trial may have been prejudiced.

Anonymous said...

In leaking circles we call this 'leakback' and it's going critical.

Anonymous said...

Tony Blair gave Ms Turner, one of his closest aides, his full backing.

"Ruth is a person of the highest integrity for whom I have great regard and I continue to have complete confidence in her," said the prime minister.

In a statement released by 10 Downing Street, Ms Turner said: "I absolutely refute any allegations of wrongdoing of any nature whatsoever."

source: BBC

QED

Anonymous said...

OK, we now know that the Met applied for the injunction. But why was the application made by the Attorney-General and not the Director of Public Prosecutions?

The hearing is said to have taken two hours; quite long for an interim injunction. (Twenty minutes would be more usual.) This suggests that the BBC had been notified of the application, were represented, and contested the case.

There must have been two leaks. First the e-mail was leaked to the BBC. (We don't know when. Could have been weeks ago.) Then someone leaked the fact that the BBC was about to broadcast it, presumably on one of yesterday evening's bulletins.

The Met may not know who leaked the e-mail to the BBC, or when. It could have been one of their own officers or possibly some disaffected man or woman at Downing Street.

At this stage, therefore, we can draw only three conclusions:

1) Contrary to what the spin doctors would have us believe, Yates is NOT leaking info. in the hope of embarrassing No. 10. On the contrary he is trying to keep the enquiry under wraps.

2) Downing Street is (still) furious. That's "furious" as in shit scared.

3) The four main suspects probably each have their own lawyers and will not hesitate to dump on each other when the going gets rough.

Anonymous said...

Robinson just on Today really just repeated this blogs 'factual' conclusions of last night incl Ming's inputs. Said definately expected more interviews. Said surprised at fact of statement(s) from AG last night.

The perverting course justice line could just have arrisen due to leaking, not necessarily document non disclosure or possibly both.

From my limited experience plod needs & deserves the best possible support from all sources. This 'beyond reasonable doubt' stuff is not easy & the other parties have probably access to the best criminal law advisors around (outside of Government).

Anonymous said...

morrisox - with respect to Guido, the difference is the BBC is watched/heard by millions whereas this blog is limited to a select few. It's not a criticism; it's true. Are potential juror's likely to be regulars on here? That's what it comes down to. Prejudice can't be taken too far otherwise most pub conversations would scupper trials.

Robinson was doing very well on TOday this morning saying nothing new. Lets face it, that's his usual policy.

Interestingly, he started off saying the injunction was to prevent prejudicing a prosecution but ended suggesting it was also to prevent suspects being forewarned. More interviews to come?

Anonymous said...

Morrisox - whilst coroners inquests are i think a specialised area if they recokon they can consider the diana thing almost anything goes in my book!

Anonymous said...

morrisox [8.58 AM] You say, "It doesn't matter what the BBC has or hasn't done. The contents of this website and a number of others could be used by any half-decent silk as evidence that a trial may have been prejudiced."

Don't panic. These "now impossible for defendant to have a fair trial" arguments rarely succeed. In fact I can't recall an occasion in recent times where the argument has succeeded. They may run the argument, of course, but in my opinion it will avail them nothing.

Anonymous said...

I agree. If the Home secretary can hold a press conference on the day suspected terrorists are arrested and say: "we have foiled a dangerous plot to kill thousands of people" and that not be prejudice then we're still ok.

Anonymous said...

Master Fawkes,

Based overseaas, with a blog hosted in the US, I may be in a position to assist. Any advice?

RM

Anonymous said...

Who leaked -

1) The police. Have to be someone junior, drunk or very stupid. If this enquiry doesn't end up with a water tight case against someone it'll be South Georgia traffic management for all involved.

2) Civil servants - possible.

3) The Sith - keep the knife rotating. They need Blair out soon. Palpatine is looking a worse and worse bet every day. The splashing sound at the back is from ZanuLabour MPs throwing the deckchairs overboard to make a raft.... They have stopped bothering to re-rranged them...

4) The Bunker. As Guido said, a spolier - *IF* they knew they were done. Ingnominy and shame beats I,S and 8 years.

Anonymous said...

Finbar Taggit said...

"Tony Blair gave Ms Turner, one of his closest aides, his full backing."

Exactly - Don't pull the trigger Ruth and I won't pull my trigger.

This is of course tactically stupid now that an email has appeared.

In effect the police will be pulling one of the fab-four's triggers for them which will set the who No fusion reaction off.

The first person to plead guilty and land their fellows in the mire will get the best parole option.

Expect a visit to a police station this weekend by one of the fab four with a carefully worded legal statement.

The Leadership Blogger said...

It's obviously very serious, beacause Blears has just told us they know nothing abut it.

Anonymous said...

BTW, has anyone heard from Blair lately? Could he be lying in a field near Chequers after consuming a quantity of co-proxomol and slashing his wrists whilst unconscious?

Anonymous said...

The modern-day leaker normally utilises the services of a willing/gullible leakee (a conduit for one's leaks).

In this case one wonders what role the BBC has been playing? An occasional leakee, a regular leakee or the only leakee?

What with Hutton, licence fee increases and an uncertain future in a hostile world (shiver, shiver), perhaps some chose to make a dangerous pact with desperate men?

I am sure Guido's archives will show from whose mouth(s) the leaks were first broadcast.

Anonymous said...

Anyone else feeling a bit sorry for Ruth?

I'm certainly not a Lab supporter, but I do feel a bit for her. She's going to take the brunt of the song and dance man's charade. The real question is if or when his party will finally see what a shamster the man is.

As an aside, I see considerable danger in Cameron aping him as the 'Heir to Blair'. Mark my words, in 18-24 months' time Blair's name will be mud both inside and outside the Labour party. Gordon will move adroitly away from Blair's stance on many things (incl. Iraq) and if Dave is not exceedingly careful he will end up being associated with the sort of shamster politics that brought us the great song and dance man. Ironically it may be Brown, not Cameron, that looks fresher.

And I'm a Cameron fan, and have been ever since I made a nice packet on him becoming leader of the Tories many many many moons ago ...

Anonymous said...

Re. Sherlock Holmes at 9.06. The BBC report was leaked. Lawyers are involved in every item that goes out, and the moment the he or she saw the plan they'll have called in the legal team and would have had to inform outsiders. This is standard practice - partly because it gives them a fair chance to respond (very impt if ever there is a complaint) and partly in case legalities are being breached.

I only know this because I've been there done that! Mind you the BBC lawyers are incredibly lily-livered compared to News International ... don't blame Hutton. Blame Gilligan. Incidentally, whilst I've been harsh on Nick R, he is right about reporters needing to be rigorous. Gilligan was an example of how investigative journalism can be a pile of shit. A warning there to Bloggers ...

Anonymous said...

Re. the above 'The BBC report was leaked' should be in ' ... ' quoting Sherlock. I.e. it wasn't 'leaked' at all.

Anonymous said...

Now we that are going to have a jury at the inquest into Diana's death, how about one into the death of Dr Kelly? - we have the strong wiff of Government involvement there as well.

Anonymous said...

well said anon 10.37
I agree that there will be much slime when the stones are turned over

Geezer said...

Anon 10.23. That is the worst case of NuLab Brownite astro-turfing I've seen for a long time.
What type of cretin thinks that Cameron, THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY leader, will get covered in more shit than Brown, the second in command (if not first) for the last ten years of a sleaze ridden Labour government!

How fucking moronic you Brownite Toadies are!!!

Anonymous said...

I wouldn't altogether be suprised, if some fanatics have kidnapped the tourists in Ethiopia, in a desperate attempt to 'bury bad news'
See how paranoid these lunatics have made me.
Still seeing Blears twitching on News24 cheered me up.
kf

Anonymous said...

I understand that Lord Levy has been found to be bullying witnesses in the cash for peerages row to back 'his side of the story'.

Anonymous said...

I don't know who did this leaking for you mate, but it's rubbish. Look, your leaking is blocked. It's obviously going in the wrong direction.

A skilled leaksmith could probably sort it out, but it's now a big job - could have been a little job, if you had called me earlier, but these bloody amateurs have screwed it for you and it ain't gonna be easy to sort it all out.

Incidentally, would you be looking to do this for cash?

Anonymous said...

I understand from a source in the Met that the email is from CB stating TB has authorised Peerages for cash (City Acadamies)

Anonymous said...

'Academies' young troll - 2/10

Anonymous said...

CB?

Anonymous said...

In my deams CB would be a typo for GB . . .

Anonymous said...

Oh if only it was true that the clunking fist had finally been exposed for his part in this scandal.
Perhaps the good Inspector was following a nappy trail?

Anonymous said...

Am I being a little slow? Who or what is the mysterious 'CB'.

And has anyone else other than me looked at the absurd 20/20 website. Utterly banal. What can the slogan 'towards a progressive century' mean?

Anonymous said...

CB = Cherie Booth

or if there's a typo it could be

CP = Chai Patel
CE = Christopher Evans
GB = Gordon Brown

Anonymous said...

Troll alert - trolls active in this blog!!

Anonymous said...

The sooner we get this lot out and set up a conservative-bnp alliance the better.

Anonymous said...

Bring Back Gilligan, he'd have outed the crap merchant before Goldilocks finished stuffin.

Anonymous said...

Sky News very MUTDED, about injunction,..........
could it be Lording over us all Murdoch or worse

Sir Adam Boulton...in return for HUSH payments by his silences about Nu Lab excesses...

Anonymous said...

CB isn't Cherie Booth/Blair. Surely her husband would just speak to her wouldn't he?

Oh please tell me it's a typo of 'GB'.

Anonymous said...

But if it was from GB to TB then why did the Beeb put up a picture of Ruthie? No, red herring guys.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, but does TB listen to CB, when he never understands what GB is yammering about, and JP is kept busy fussing with his lower zip, to have time to unzip his lips, and AM +CC plotting to rain on the GB parade, as PH has lost/found his outed SpAD,and MB is oiling the caravan wheels for Easter hols, as AJ is mating all in sight, as long as they do not walk up the aisle, where DM(blink,blink,blink,bli) reids from the NuLab Bible, "Gordon is an excellent candidate", JR amens that, polishing an ultra sharp blade.....GUIDO PISSED..better than DHWIVES....AND NOT A milf among 'em

Anonymous said...

Now what can one deduce from all this trollcraft?

Anonymous said...

Basically we have no idea, but it must be serious for plod to ask Goldsmith to stop it, whatever it is, or was.

jailhouselawyer said...

Update at my place, just a tasty morsel...

Anonymous said...

JHL - fine, but what's the story? And what's 'close'?

Anonymous said...

"The sooner we get this lot out and set up a conservative-bnp alliance the better."

And the point of that was...

Anonymous said...

I should imagine a lot of chickens are getting slaughtered over in the Kingdom of Fife.
Trying to read the entrails for which way the great clunking nappy should send his hordes.
What a golden opportunity for a palace coup d'etat. But will the monoccular monster take it?
No he'll just bottle it - again!
Meanwhile has anyone noticed if there is any smoke coming out of the S'ith.
A sudden desire to remove any incriminating evidence.

Anonymous said...

Ruth "Dennis" Turner comments on the evening standard website:

And so he should have done too, at long last he has managed to get it right. Conjecture or even slanted reporting now could totally wreck any future case by the police if they decide to prosecute. It is time that the media in general stuck to reporting events factually and with as little bias as possible, investigative reporting can sometimes help to bring matters to a head but equally, since it is one or a few peoples personal interpretation of a situation it can also do immeasurable harm.

- Dennis, Taplow, U.K.

Anonymous said...

Since when did "a personal interpretation of a situation" by people not involved affect a police investigation? Please be sensible.

If the police were that sensitive then half of pub conversations would be contempt.

What we discuss here is wild speculation and opinion. It can't have any influence on the investigation.

Anonymous said...

It makes sense if CP (misheard as CB) is Charles Powell

Anonymous said...

Who said Bring Back Gilligan?

Gilligan it was who went before the Foreign Affairs Committee for a second time on the day that David Kelly went for his walk in the woods.

Glligan had been before the FAC the first time and had refused to reveal his source. Kelly then went before FAC and was questioned. After that, FAC issued a report saying that Kelly was not the source for the Gilligan claims.

Kelly would have been mortified by this, as he knew he was the source for Gilligan. When Gilligan was hauled back before FAC, Kelly would have judged that Gilligan would crack and confess that he was indeed his source.

The results can only be imagined. FAC would have gone ballistic, accused Kelly of misleading behaviour and would have had him pack in for anotrher grilling pronto.

If I knew that Gilligan was going to shop me and that I'd be dragged through the mire again, I'd be wanting to take myself off for a walk.

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