The Thatcher Legend

82 comments:

Tuscan Tony said...

Recall someone did a pretty good dub/mix of some of her speeches a few years ago, you know how the left loves a good bit of domination/flagellation/sharp heel on the spine and she was that personified.

Anonymous said...

This obseesion with Mrs T in the Labour supporting media is a New Labour tactic to try to rally their crumbling core vote with memories of the hated Thatcher.

A sure sign of desperation on Brown's part but expect lot's more of this in the run up to May.

Paul Linford said...

Thatcher is surely due to become "cool" in 2007.

...particularly if she pegs it this year. It usually has that effect.

Roger Thornhill said...

Are not old die(nial)-hard lefties rejoining the Labour Party now that the whiff of Broon is in the air?

George Street said...

Did anyone, like myself, seriously toy with the idea of what it would be like to give her one? I reckon, at her prime, say between 1982-86, she'd have been a top shag. Especially if she'd have been prepared to look back at you over her shoulder as you were giving her one up the cat flap. It's a scenario Mrs Street and I often imagine, her as Thatch, me as Sir Alan Walters.

Anonymous said...

Same with the comedians - Punt and Dennis still base there act around righteous indignation over Thatch. Thing is, it wasn't even funny when it was topical.

Anonymous said...

Imagine what Britain would be like if James Callaghan had won the 79 election.

Nicodemus said...

New-rave is coming back as well Guido - will you go back to running your rather fun parties?

Anonymous said...

Paul Linford beat me to it :¬(

George Street: You can find a similar, though somewhat more elegantly expressed, view in Alan Clark's diaries.

Anonymous said...

Will Gordon be the ultimate loser in the honours affair?

http://politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2007/02/07/will-gordon-be-the-ultimate-loser-in-the-honours-affair/

Some slanderous remarks about our Guido on that thread... tut tut

Anonymous said...

Surely 'Thatcher is due to become 'dead' in 2007' ?

Anonymous said...

george street 11.17am...maybe this is a 'scenario' you share with your pupils you warped piece of gobshite.

Anonymous said...

More importantly, What leaving present would you give Tony Blair ?

Some amusing responses over on the Torygraph's 'Speaker's Corner'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?view=BLOGDETAIL&grid=F11&blog=yourview&xml=/news/2007/02/06/ublview06a.xml

Anonymous said...

She better not die before the Falklands anniversary dinner in June! Main reason i'm going!

Anonymous said...

"Imagine what Britain would be like if James Callaghan had won the 79 election."

Or Foot in 1983!

Personally I can't bring mself to get worked up over the mass unemployment in the early 1980s. Most of the victims had been voting for Labour governments that had shafted the country.

Anonymous said...

What a wonderful woman. Balls of steel. Heroic. No wonder the rags keep mentioning her.

George Street said...

Graham E -

Sadly not. So few 'students' bother to turn up for lessons these days. I blame the complete fucking given to the education system by the Tories 1979-1997. By the way, the supposed 'Youth appeal' of boy Cameron? The guilded youth I encounter think he's a cunt and want to batter him to death with a baseball bat.

Anonymous said...

Guido, you may be a lot of things but 2 things you aint.
1. Young
2. Fashionable
Please leave trend predictions to the fashion pack and get on with what you are good at.
No-one, I repeat, No-one will ever be wearing Maggie tees in Hoxton Square. The Devil wears Maggie I don't think, the devil IS Maggie more like.

Guido Fawkes said...

Anonymong,

Au contraire, Guido is

1. Under 40 still (just).
2. Cutting edge new media enfant terrible © The Indy media section.
3. Contemplating wearing his Maggie T-shirt around Hoxton Square on Friday to start the trend.

Anonymous said...

Spin spin nuLab trying to upset us oldie's heh ,well it's worked for me, if that cow had been decent oldCon and not a friend of the rich ,maybe we wouldnt be in the state we are in now, nuLab teflon reminds me of her. what goes around comes around ,just waiting.

AntiCitizenOne said...

I'll bet anonymong is one of those whose T-shirt honours that murderous terrorist thug Che.

Anonymous said...

12:11 PM
Me no , just watching the chattering middle class start to go down ,think Chav druggie huddie job seeker, the judiciary ,the police,the church ,all been silenced and overwhelmed by our new friends and loads of new laws,whose left,the only people with the money apart from his mates ,is you lot. enjoy

Rich Johnston said...

The Guardian just did a piece on what happens to Prime Ministers after they leave office, in light of Tony's imminent departure. That probably counted for most of the mentions. Odds are there's the high amount for John Major too...

Anonymous said...

The Left are a bunch of bitter wankers. They can't get over the fact that Maggie battered their, already ailing, putrid ideology, from pillar to post in the '80s, so much so, that we got saddled with NuLab. Not to mention that the socialists buddies in the Soviet block, got their comeuppance as well.
So they still talk about her as the "devil" because the sad leftie tossers hate that Britain had to leave the '70s behind.

She was the greatest peace-time Prime Minister this country has had. Socialists are the only ones with the hump, and Hooray for that!

Had Labour had the reigns in the '80s, we probably would have become a Soviet satellite.

Anonymous said...

When did she go out of fashion?

Anonymous said...

As Guido hasn't left a comment facility on the above post, here will have to suffice.

Just goes to prove the rule - The only good socialist is a dead socialist

Anonymous said...

Maggie was good, but then sold off the silver to mates and started to believe her own PR ,that finished her, How I laughed when she left no10 crying, I am not laughing now ,its me whose crying.

Anonymous said...

And I wonder how Blair will be remembered in a generation? Thatcher may have made a few mistakes, but they are insignificant when compared to the ineptitude we’ve seen over the last 10 years.

Those days were the nearest we ever got to a meritocracy - the only fair and productive way to run a country. In fact, the complete opposite to what this current bunch of ‘elected’ wankers espouse (oh and Cameron for that matter).

Anonymous said...

Nostalgic Tory Days

Blair will be remebered with a stake in his heart ,for the beast he is.
Thatcher made loads of mistake's no a few , think falkand's ,Knott ,big red ship.

AntiCitizenOne said...

Regarding

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-13566905,00.html

"£5m fund to help fight Muslim extremism will be unveiled today as part of what Prime Minister Tony Blair called a "radical and head-on" confrontation."

and

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1250528,00.html

"This morning three people were hurt in a parcel bomb explosion at the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency centre in Swansea."

Will the government agree to donate 5 Million to help fund the speeding community?

Anonymous said...

1:17 PM

I wonder how many of them a marginals

Newmania said...

I thinkyou have point here Guido. Margaret Thatcher has become a sort of rebbellion . I have enjoyed my years winding up islignton poltroons about their semi digested dogs breakfast of Liberal wishy and washyness. Would I really like sitting at the Golf Club surrounded by people that agree with me ...Hmmmmm.


You are spot on and I am very very cool.

Anonymous said...

Makes me laugh when people compare Thatcher’s Falklands to Blair’s Iraq.

Hmmm, one was defending our territories against an opportunist but aggressive invasion, the other was illegally invading another country on a bunch of lies and a plagurised essay downloaded from the internet. And if you didn’t like it, you we bullied, ridiculed, or ended up dead in the woods.

Sorry, no comparison. Anonymous 1:13, your starter for 10, is do you know which was which?

purplepangolin said...

george street 11:52

And Labour have done such a sterling job with the education system?

Anonymous said...

What's happened to the comments thread on the Fiona Jones/Jack Straw story?

Has someone come down heavy?

Anonymous said...

http://www.redmolotov.com/catalogue/design.php?design_code=thatcherrevolutionary

Anonymous said...

nostalgic tory days said...

If you had read the papers before the Falkland WAR ,including the yanks ,it was if it was 2 kids playing , Iam going, yes Iam going,and they went and took the Falklands ,I guess it was a shock for Thatcher ,
no differance between Iraq and the Falkands , notice 100 of our soldiers dead to present.
Me I want out Of Iraq NOW.

Anonymous said...

Tony Blair and Lembit Opik have been meeting Shipa Shetty today. I hope Private Eye got a picture.

Anonymous said...

The Belgrano - the Argentine Navy Crusiser that was out to attack? I don't class taking that out as a mistake.

And I still think Falklands compared to Iraq are chalk and cheese.

Thatcher's husband Denis lashed out at the producer of the show in the entertainment suite, saying that his wife had been "stitched up by bloody BBC poofs and Trots."

Anonymous 1:36, which one are you?

Anonymous said...

Mrs T did some good things (like smashing the NUM) but she certainly went off her rocker towards the end. "We are a grandmother" and all that. Harold Wilson was barking mad at the end of his premiership ... Macmillan too. Heath was mad to begin with. (Alec Douglas-Home was an exception, but then he was asleep from 1953-1967.) Now Blair has gone right round the U-bend. There must be something about the water-supply in No 10.

No 11 too. El Gordo doesn't need to become Prime Minister: he's barmy already. Neurotic as well, as evidenced by his bitten fingernails.

Anonymous said...

Anonymong 1.13

Which Knott are you on about? Alan, the England wickie?

Anonymous said...

nostalgic tory days
No argument about the Belgrano ,but it wasn't about to attack neither should it have been about the area, the Falkland's war should not have happened ,Knott decided the navy should be paired down ,and took the HMS ? Shackleton the big red ship out.
and that did it.
Remember Knott throwing his dummy out of the pram in that interview on tv, 100 military died ,same as Iraq ,just because some sh-ts want there name in the papers.

Tuscan Tony said...

Afghan Banana - reckon you've hit the motherlode there - must be down to the lead pipes at No. 10 - that's what did for the Romans apparently. Though I'm not sure how much water passed Maggie's lips during her tenure there

peteblogging said...

Guido Fawkes said...

"Contemplating wearing his Maggie T-shirt around Hoxton Square on Friday to start the trend."

Hoxton is sooo 2004 Guido. All Japanese tourists and Notting Hill trustafarian exiles.

On reflection, not a bad constituency for a Thatcher revival.

Tony Benn sewed up the 80s-dinosaur-in-Hoxton gig about four years ago, giving anti-war speeches in the Legion and elsewhere with Damon Albarn et al.

Go a bit further East - would be great to see you wandering around Whitechapel (MP: "Gorgeous" George) in a Warhol-inspired Thatcher T-shirt!

Anonymous said...

Nott not Knott.
Anon 201

Anonymous said...

Anonymous, 2:01

So was the war triggered by the occupation of South Georgia by Argentina on 19 March 1982 followed by the occupation of the Falklands or not?

If it was, I win the argument and Blair’s a crook, Thatcher is to be admired. If not, can you correct wikipedia, BBC history etc. etc. for us coz it ain’t the same as your account.

Happy wikifiddling.

Anonymous said...

nostalgic tory days

You win ,I ain't playing anymore , Iam off to suck my thumb , those lovely Argie pikeys.

Anonymous said...

"Or Foot in 1983!"

Funny that, isn't it. Somehow Thatcher ended up having to battle against a total no-hoper for the top spot. I suppose you think that was an accident?

The Hitch said...

Music was better in the 1980's
something you could dance to not like all this guitar caterwauling.
Porsches were better, big fins and noisy exhausts
Women had big hair short skirts and high heels not skinny jeans.
Houses were cheaper taxes lower, although drugs were more expensive.
Handguns were legal and Gerry Adams was a pariah , and we regularly used to tag the odd paddy (no offence Guido)
Imagine cecil parkinson or Alan Clark banging on about co2 emissions, plenty of banging and plenty of emissions but it had fuck all to do with the environment.
I for one will shed a tear when the great lady passes on.

Anonymous said...

Go to Red Molotov for a cool Che Thatcher T-Shirt.

I wear mine in bed. The Ladies love it.

http://www.redmolotov.com/catalogue/designformat.php?design_code=thatcherrevolutionary&format_code=olivetshirt&category_code=

The Hitch said...

I wear mine in bed. The Ladies love it.
I take it you pull it over your head disciple?
Or do you use it to mop up the damp patch?

Anonymous said...

"Funny that, isn't it. Somehow Thatcher ended up having to battle against a total no-hoper for the top spot. I suppose you think that was an accident?"

Care to offer an alternative explanation?

Anonymous said...

This thread reminds me of the hoary old one:

Q. "What's the Thatcher legend?"

A. "A c**t with the characteristics of a great white shark!"

Anonymous said...

The fallacy in this NuLab ploy, if it exists, is that many of those who weren't too sure about her in the 1980s (I voted for Foot in '83) are now absolutely convinced that she was right all along. 'Thacherite' and 'Churchillian' go together like Moët & Chandon.

Sir-C4' said...

All hail Maggie, our greatest Prime Minister ever!

partywhip said...

Guido - here I am - no longer an 'anonymong' as you so kindly call me.
I challenge you to a 'walk-off'.
Place - Hoxton Square
Time 8pm
Dress code: You in a maggie tee, me in a Guido tee, - they are selling them for 4.99 on Brick Lane.

P.s. I am afraid to break it to you but 40 is hardly spring chicken.

Anonymous said...

Say what you like about Margaret Thatcher,she was a patriot first and foremost. Highly unlikely that anyone will ever say that about this bunch of self serving arseholes that we are about to get rid of.

ps: anyone else having problems with the word verifcation not working?

Anonymous said...

Beat you to it Guido. Wore my Thatcher tshirt to a party around Hoxton Square a few months back. The trend has already been started. That is all.

Anonymous said...

I think the past is better viewed with rose tinted specs, you only see what you remember , Maggie a good badie , put her on stage now and she would creme these toerags.
Maggie maggie maggie yeh yeh yeh

Anonymous said...

Maggie would have wiped the floor with a huge number of the current bunch, both Labour and Tory. At least the Tories managed to win seats in the North under her leadership, but then she had something to say, unlike Cameroony's Style Council.

Anonymous said...

Curly said...

Nice one , find you own ppc ,or we'll finish that wall off ,all the way past my house :-)

Anonymous said...

Peter Hitchens said...
Music was better in the 1980's

Oh dearie dearie me. Let's hear it for Spandau Hitch, the new romantic, or Billy Hitchel, the piano man, or Macca Hitch yodelling Ebony and Ivory with his Bro.

1980s music - Now that's what I call crap.

Anonymous said...

I won't buy Poundland cd's with 80s music on ugh.

Anonymous said...

"1980s music - Now that's what I call crap."

Clearly you were not a fan of the heavy metal scene.

Anonymous said...

Ah, in that case
"Tramp the Dirt Down" by Elvis Costello...

hahahaha

The Hitch said...

Before any business meeting I always like to get ready by playing "eye of the tiger" to myself , then I swagger in ready for the kill.

Anonymous said...

Dear god, please! Thatcher cool? She started the "screw everybody else, just look at how much money i can make" attitude, her friends were dictators who killed thousands of their own people, and don't start me on her son! How can this become cool? May the bitch die as painful a death as she inflicted directly & indirectly on others.
There, had my rant, feel better.

Anonymous said...

If it's Costello, carl, it's gotta be "Watching the Detectives", surely.....

Anonymous said...

anonymong, 6.28

You poor deluded leftie jellyfish.

Anonymous said...

Thatcher may have made mistakes, but she was a patriot, not like that snivelling little traitor Blair.

Anonymous said...

"she was a patriot, not like that
snivelling little traitor Blair."

So, of these two scoundrels, patriotism was her last refuge and his first?

Anonymous said...

Idle 6.33. I'm not a leftie or a rightie, Thatcher was morally corupt but not a crook, unlike Blair. However, tell me what bit is inaccurate and I'll take it back.

Anonymous said...

"Tony Blair and Lembit Opik have been meeting Shipa Shetty"

I always thought that Sheep a shitty were constituents of Winshester?

Anonymous said...

This Tory Gay Boy just loves Margot (as he wouldn't dare call her, well not to her face anyway).

Tory Gay Boy was most proud to be out and about last summer in his Lady T, in the style of Che Guevara, t-shirt purchased from his good friends at 'any old icon'.

In fact, Tory Gay Boy was so proud he popped into the Prowler Store in Soho (to purchase some postcards of the late and much missed Queen Mother).

The Nancy Boy behind the counter became most excited at the sight of Tory Gay Boy's t-shirt and in fact went so far as to compliment him upon it!

Anonymous said...

"Dear god, please! Thatcher cool? She started the "screw everybody else, just look at how much money i can make" attitude"

Better that than the "I'm entitled to your money because you have more than me" attitude.

Anonymous said...

"She started the "screw everybody else, just look at how much money i can make" attitude""

This attitude started with the invention of money. What else is it for?

Old BE said...

Imagine what Britain would be like if James Callaghan had won the 79 election.

Imagine what Britain would be like if Tony Blair had won the 97, 01 and 05 elections.

Serf said...

However, tell me what bit is inaccurate and I'll take it back.

If you had listed some facts rather than a teenage lefty opinion, there might be an argument to be had about accuracy.

The real screw everyone else attitude belongs to socialism.

Anonymous said...

The good Lady was not morally corrupt. She was given a hospital pass on the economy and had to find a way to get Britain going forward again. This she achieved, in spades. If you think her relationship with Pinochet makes her morally corrupt, you don't know the history of the Falklands War.

Anonymous said...

she was.............

Anonymous said...

I believe Martha Stout has replaced Margaret naked on a cold day.

Anonymous said...

"mrs thatcher did something good like smashing the NUM" - are you mad? these were ordinary young men mostly, supported by a great deal of the country. what a very misguided twat. go pay a visit to the ex mining towns now and see what joy "smashing the NUM" brought