Why have sheep been allowed to walk onto the green? To the caddy's left?
December 22, 2006 at 3:08 PM
Anonymous
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Don't see what you're complaining about. It also keeps King Herod's blokes on the other side.
December 22, 2006 at 3:12 PM
Anonymous
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That is well off. You know why the wall had to be built, too many Palestinian's wished the Israelis' a 'Merry Death' in form of suicide bombers.
Maybe you should also have put a little tree up with handgranades as decoration, just for 'balance', topped off by a Kassam rocket?
Pfui Guido! :(
December 22, 2006 at 3:14 PM
Anonymous
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Keith Dovkunts said... Why have sheep been allowed to walk onto the green? To the caddy's left?
That's some fucking bunker to the right!
December 22, 2006 at 3:20 PM
Anonymous
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Sheep were the equivalent of an Atco or Hayterette in those days.
Joseph will be playing the back 9 only, though....
December 22, 2006 at 3:28 PM
Anonymous
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Joseph: How the fuck are we going to get that Nail bomb into the kindergarten now?
December 22, 2006 at 3:34 PM
Anonymous
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Leave a thread open so that all Guidos Bloggers can wish each other or somebody else ALL THE BEST AND THE REST OVER THIS FESTIVE PERIOD--OR OTHERWISE-you know what we mean Guido. You know the usual cribbing and backbiting,insults and political critique.
December 22, 2006 at 3:35 PM
Anonymous
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"So that's been built to keep us from having to look at Melanie Philllips' face?? Well worth the dtour then!"
December 22, 2006 at 3:37 PM
Anonymous
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"Now Mary , you drive the Donkey at the wall and detonate it at the last second"
December 22, 2006 at 3:41 PM
Anonymous
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Joe: "Don't blame ME. The directions distinctly stated that Green Hill Far Away was WITHOUT a city wall. The bastards have obviously just built this".
- unless there are startling revelations from one scandal or another, we hope. 'Cos Christmastide is the time of the year with the worst record for break-ups, back-stabbings, telling the boss exactly what you think of him and letting the cat out of the bag while pissed.
Ever thought of adding your number to the list of emergency numbers? Fire, Police, Ambulance, Samaritans - and Guido.
Have a good one.
December 22, 2006 at 4:31 PM
Anonymous
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Cinnamon has obviously had his senses distorted by the aroma from chanuka candles.
Perhaps this is this Lord Levy's last defence
December 22, 2006 at 4:32 PM
Anonymous
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Blimey Guido you only just got back from holiday!!!
cinnamon and anonymous 3:34 PM: if the wall prevented the 51st rogue state's helicopter gunships and tanks (provided free, gratis and for nothing by the US) from killing Palestinian children, flattening houses with Palestinian families still inside them, knee-capping Palestinian men at road-blocks, kidnapping doctors and detaining them without recourse to legal representation or fair trial, and cutting off the water supplies, well - it might be worth having. But it doesn't: it is the horrendous boundary to an open prison for Palestinian civilians. Herod would have been orgasmically proud of the Israeli government and the IDF.
December 22, 2006 at 4:54 PM
Anonymous
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Guido,
Before you go, I've got these accredited photographs with a signed confession pinned to two resignation letters together with signed and witnessed copies of a Metropolitan Police transcript of a statement and a photocopy of an arrest warrant for grand felony and corruption which have been ratified by a high court judge.
Will you be around over the w/e to get these on your blog please?
Thank you Guido, for providing endless amusement to all of us air guitar players.
December 22, 2006 at 5:33 PM
Anonymous
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Watch out for Palestinians winning gold medals for Pole Vault at next Olympics!
December 22, 2006 at 5:36 PM
Anonymous
said...
Party games for Christmas!!
Try to guess the identity of the Nu Labour turd, patprimer posting here. The winner gets a threesome with Hazel Blears and Ruth Kelly or Gordon Brown and Peter Mandelson if you're really weird:
Idle, I think in the quaint old English of the carol writer "WITHOUT a city wall" means outside (as within/without) so it's just back to how it was.
December 22, 2006 at 6:18 PM
Anonymous
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Nice people those Israelis.
A Joyeux Noel to all, particularly the Palestinians.
December 22, 2006 at 6:27 PM
Anonymous
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The wall says it all
Suicide bombers are all a trampled people have Israel has helicopters to blitscreig the ghettos which easily fly over the wall
to the dead there is not much diff except the suicide bomber only does it once.. The coward in the helicopter at not risk to himself continues to murder Happy Christmas
Anonymous said... The winner gets a threesome with Hazel Blears and Ruth Kelly or Gordon Brown and Peter Mandelson if you're really weird:
If I put on a clean nappy can I have a ride on Gordons rocking horse?
December 22, 2006 at 9:32 PM
Anonymous
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It's not Ed Balls or any other New Liebour apparatchik -- just some wanker spouting Newspeak and winding up the taxpayers. I'd say he's got his snout in the junior trough, with a gold-plated pension at the end of it courtesy of the people he's insulting. Probably a council employee engaged in "outreach". Counselling for cottagers, or the like.
December 22, 2006 at 10:29 PM
Anonymous
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haddock @ 6.18 -
I hope the haddock that is going into my kedgeree tomorrow is fresher than you - I'm au fait with the grammar and the intent of the original lyric, it was simply a weak attempt at punning on my part.
Happy Christmas and humbugs to all fellow travellers, and Bah Humbug to all trolls.
anonymous 11.01 : That's kind of you to offer. People like me with a sensitive nature do need special treatment. Humanity is a good starting point.
Think of all the poor prisoners at this time of the year, no doubt they will be eating tinned turkey again. Has Bernard Matthews no compassion?
December 22, 2006 at 11:27 PM
Anonymous
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Ho, ho, Ohhhhhh!
Santa dies at children's party
Press Association Friday December 22, 2006 Guardian Unlimited
Children watched in horror as a Santa Claus collapsed and died as he handed out presents at a Christmas party on Sunday.
Andrew Robertson was taken ill as the excited youngsters received their gifts. The 82-year-old was taken to a side room and attempts made to revive him, but he was pronounced dead when medics arrived.
Mr Robertson, from Dundee, had played Santa at the city's Broughty Castle bowling club Christmas party, held for the grandchildren of members, for several years.
Article continues "Andy was a father figure in the club who never had a bad word to say about anyone," Ian Smart, the bowling club's secretary, said. "If you asked him to do anything for you, he would always say 'no problem'.
"One wee kid said 'how are we going to get our presents next week if Father Christmas is ill?' - they didn't understand what had happened."
Mr Smart said Mr Robertson, who had played an active role in the club, was "well liked and will be sorely missed".
Mr Robertson's brother, Alister, said he had complained about feeling hot shortly before collapsing.
"The kids saw him getting taken away," he told the Courier newspaper. "They knew something was wrong with Santa Claus as he went away with the two guys, but they didn't see anything further.
"It has been quite a shock for everybody, but my view is that he was there thoroughly enjoying himself when he was struck down."
That's a pretty disgraceful cartoon. What about all the murder and injustice committed by Muslims in Bethlehem (as detailed by Cranmer)? Perhaps, if shown from another angle, we can see a swarm of eager suicide bombers clamouring at the other side of the wall.
December 23, 2006 at 2:15 AM
Anonymous
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jhl 11.01 "People like me ... do need special treatment."
"special treatment" = spezielle Behandlung = Zyklon B = dead.
gotit now hirsty?
anon 1051&1101
Anyone who doesn't know hirst can find out here > http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/article/0,,1949501,00.html
December 23, 2006 at 2:21 AM
Anonymous
said...
Well why not read up on a little history this Christmas, you can start here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amin_al-Husayni
and here: www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com
enjoy, and try not to choke on your multicultural festive desert whilst studying those pages.
I love the picture of Joseph and Mary and the unborn little baby Jesus. Thankyou Guido for the festive cheer. You have cheered an elderly and frankly disappointed lady's heqrt. But why is there a wall there in their way? Who could have built that? I have will have to ask Dave. Perhaps he will know.
December 23, 2006 at 10:30 AM
Anonymous
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Cinnamon, good to know that there's a consistent attitude to terrorism among Israelis: http://wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing Perhaps we should have built a 'fence' Happy Chanukah
December 23, 2006 at 10:48 AM
Anonymous
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Mary to Joseph: "You and your Sat Nav, next time buy a map!"
Clearly keeping up the touchy feely bit right through the holiday season, Guido. To all those who feel that the wall is justified, and the cartoon in bad taste, tough. Try living in Gaza, folks. President Carter said it best. Apartheid. Not a nice word, and not a nice wall, either. Thought Berlin should have demonstrated the point that once you get into wall construction, you've lost the ideological argument.
A happy Christmas and a (relatively) peaceful New Year to you too Paul.
December 23, 2006 at 1:23 PM
Anonymous
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Jailhouse lawyer I hope you have a fucking terrible and lonely Christmas , sat there with your mangey dog , skint knowing that you are despised by everybody who knows you including your own family. With any luck you may choke to death on your Christmas pud!
Well, I'm not sure cameras existed to capture Mary and Joseph travelling to Bethlehem. And the wall, of course, didn't exist then - because neither did Muslim terrorists.
Apartheid? Only in the same way that murder being illegal is a form of discrimination. Morons.
December 23, 2006 at 2:39 PM
Anonymous
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When it comes to murder, particularly of women and children, your Israeli friends are the undisputed champions, cawpshite.
I can see little difference between the reasons given for building the walls around the Bethlehem Ghetto and those for building the walls around the Warsaw Ghetto; in the one case, it was to contain 'typhoid', in the other 'terrorism'.
Both actually serve to contain the fear and guilt of their builders.
When it comes to murder, particularly of women and children, your Israeli friends are the undisputed champions, cawpshite.
Yeah, right. Don't seem to recall too many Israeli parents selling off their children to be suicide bombers, or too many Israeli kids detonating themselves at Palestinian bus stations.
Funny how since Saddam was bagged, tagged and booked in for his hemp fandango class, one doesn't see any Palestinians too anxious to be Allah's little explosions any more. Could it be that nobody is prepared to shell out the requisite US$10,000 per martyr that Saddam used to pay? Heavens forbid that Hamas followers would only kill Israelis if there was a large paycheque in it for them, eh?
December 23, 2006 at 3:38 PM
Anonymous
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Julian I dint recall any members of hamas running over peace demonstrators with bulldozers or deliberately sniping at children, nor stealing peoples land nor hanging british soldiers
people become "terrorists" for a reason sweetie
December 23, 2006 at 3:43 PM
Anonymous
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There was no wall when Jesus was born because there were no Palestinians and the Romans kept world order better than the UN
December 23, 2006 at 3:58 PM
Anonymous
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peter hitchens said... Julian....... people become "terrorists" for a reason sweetie
Peter, don't waste your breath on that slimeball. He's only capable of thinking tribally.
Professor Kevin MacDonald explains it well:
http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/books.htm
December 23, 2006 at 4:12 PM
Anonymous
said...
Oh, and you're just overflowing with seasonal goodwill.
December 23, 2006 at 4:55 PM
Anonymous
said...
All those moaning about Guido knocking the Israelis - he was previously criticised for supporting their invasion of Lebanon!
December 23, 2006 at 5:10 PM
Anonymous
said...
anon 4:12 julian is pretty funny , and on the ball , he doesnt need insulting just because you disagree with him( as i do ) on a certain very emotive issue(+:
December 23, 2006 at 5:20 PM
Anonymous
said...
Roll on 2007, the year El Gordo's financial chickens finally come home to roost.
December 23, 2006 at 6:01 PM
Anonymous
said...
Roll on 2007, the year El Gordo's financial chickens finally come home to roost.
Hope you rich thieves from The City get to pay for them
Oh dear, oh dear. Typhoid was a crock. We all know anti-semitism was the real reason for the Warsaw ghetto. Terrorism, however, is not a crock. We have all seen the martyrdom videos, the news reports, the interviews with proud parents... hence the wall, which reduces them significantly. Do you really think the Israelis have done it because, after 50 or so years, they suddenly developed Arabophobia? How, then, to explain the full citizenship rights of Israeli Arabs...
I'm not sure you quite appreciate how sinister and ridiculous you appear when morally conflating the Israelis with the Nazis. You are filth.
December 23, 2006 at 6:58 PM
Anonymous
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Listen to those piggies squeal
December 23, 2006 at 7:16 PM
Anonymous
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According to anonymous on the webcameron thread you are a paedophile. Is it true?
No, but carry on you grotty little murderer (+: Peasent, Just think, in 48 hours time I will be sat with my family, full of good food and drink and surrounded by love, you on the other hand will be sat on your own (apart from the dog)in your shitty dirty hovel full of the knowledge that you have neither love nor hope in your life. Merry christmas peter (+:
December 23, 2006 at 7:40 PM
Anonymous
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Fellow party workers,
Seasons' greetings, enjoy the festivities while you can, for in the new year there will be much toil for you.
Govenment debt is spiraling out of control, we will have to cull loyal workers if we can't extract enough taxes from the middle class wreckers.
The motto for 2007 is "Slash and Burn"
K
December 23, 2006 at 7:58 PM
Anonymous
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On Christmas Day, hostilities cease - temporarily - between Hitchens (Peter) and JailhouseL (Killer).
Football in no man's land. Battledress tunics for goalposts. Swapping of snout and hipflasks all round.
My bet is that Hitch gives him an elbow early doors and then does a Uruguayan defender's job on his cojones as he writhes on the floor.
Red card for Hitch but trudges off to a roar of respect from the crowd.
And that's all from Paeschendale. Back to you, Des.
Ah yes. The reasoned voice of Zionism. Go on then old dear, call me 'vermin' and untermensch as well - you know you want to.
As our hearts go out to the dismal Christmas that those in the Ghetto of Bethlehem are suffering, here at home our Catholic churches will be packed with Poles. A brave a resilient people, for whom we went to war against the nazi tyrany. In Poland at Christmas in 1941 things were as bleak as they are now in Bethlehem; the country had been occupied by an invader who cared little for the rule of law, Polish land had been annexed by the invader, Polish farmers who had been there for a thousand years driven out and their homes and land given to German settlers.
Yet in that bleak winter, news came that the Poles were fighting back. With no weapons but home-made explosives, they targeted the German occupiers, sometimes at a tremendous cost in retributions against the civilian population. But they had hope - and their sacrifice gave us all hope.
And on that story of hope I wish you all a very happy Christmas, and may Israel within her pre-1967 borders enjoy the peace and security that we all wish for ourselves.
raedwald: may Israel within her pre-1967 borders enjoy the peace and security that we all wish for ourselves.
Amen to that.
Why not make becoming a citizen of Bethlehem - a Palestinian city with a mixed Christian-Muslim community, in the occupied West Bank - one of your New Year's Resolutions.
Remember "Iraq's oil will pay for the war"? Remember "it'll be a cake walk"?
Having interviewed major US neocon players in the past few years, David Rose in January's Vanity Fair returns to check in with them. He says, "I expected to enounter disappointment. What I find instead is despair and fury at the incompetence of the Bush administration . . ."
Professor Eliot Cohen of Johns Hopkins University's School of Advanced International Studies, yet another Defense Policy Board member and longtime advocate of ousting Saddam Hussein, is even more pessimistic: "People sometimes ask me, 'If you knew then what you know now, would you still have been in favor of the war?' Usually they're thinking about the W.M.D. stuff. My response is that the thing I know now that I did not know then is just how incredibly incompetent we would be, which is the most sobering part of all this. I'm pretty grim. I think we're heading for a very dark world, because the long-term consequences of this are very large, not just for Iraq, not just for the region, but globally—for our reputation, for what the Iranians do, all kinds of stuff."
David Frum: "I always believed as a speechwriter that if you could persuade the president to commit himself to certain words, he would feel himself committed to the ideas that underlay those words. And the big shock to me has been that, although the president said the words, he just did not absorb the ideas. And that is the root of, maybe, everything."
Eliot Cohen ... his best hope now is not something on the way toward democracy but renewed dictatorship, perhaps led by a former Ba'thist: ...
Excellent six-page article.
And it would appear that Jordan Eason intends to be part of that new gravy train. (The Iraq Slogger domain is registered personally to Jordan Eason, there is a lot of disinformation already there, and its aims appear to include gathering intelligence from Iraqis under the pretence of being their friend.)
Will Tony's legacy be, after nearly a million Iraqi civilians have died, the reinstatement of the dictator - none other than Saddam Hussein?
December 23, 2006 at 9:17 PM
Anonymous
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Somehow raedwald I doubt many poles then or now would feel happy with their heroes being equated with islamists. The polish Home Army was overwhelmingly catholic where it wasn't, well.. jewish. Still, not to worry, I'm an Englishman and it actually doesn't matter much that loony tunes foreigners get up to on their own patch as long as we've got Trident and are willing to use it.
"peter hitchins" obviously, you have not checked out my flickr photo link. Living alone, and being without family and friends are two seperate things. Ho, ho,ho! Merry Xmas, nonce!
December 23, 2006 at 10:17 PM
Anonymous
said...
What's this about 'Peter Hitchins' being a paedophile ?
December 23, 2006 at 10:28 PM
Anonymous
said...
Im no nonce (+: But you did smash in the head of a little old lady with an axe didnt you (+: And you dont give a fuck (two of them)do you ? And we all Know that. Go fuck yourself on £55 a week (+:
"peter hitchins" victimless crime, my arse! You've been outed, ex Rule 43!
December 23, 2006 at 10:33 PM
Anonymous
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God's teeth!
Bongo, the singing Irish troll from the popular beat combo YouToo, is to get a K, the beeb tell me.
I would rather a battalion of luvvie knobhead Blairites be raised to the knightage than this echo chamber for teenage idealists.
December 23, 2006 at 10:34 PM
Anonymous
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So which nick was Hitchins in? Lets have some details
December 23, 2006 at 10:35 PM
Anonymous
said...
Arise Sir Bonio you pompous, tax dodging, money grabbin, tight assed ,feckin hypocrite
December 23, 2006 at 10:37 PM
Anonymous
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jailhouselawyer said... "peter hitchins" victimless crime, my arse! You've been outed, ex Rule 43! You dont rile me you pathetic little man (+:
December 23, 2006 at 10:51 PM
Anonymous
said...
Unlike you I am not the kind of person who harms innocents. Also unlike yourself, I am not a man who is who is on licensed parole from a life sentence for axing an elderly lady to death, nor can I be recalled and held in prison indefinitely should I become a threat to law abiding members of the public. You have just criminally libelled me by calling me a peadophile (which I am not). John I am scared of you, you are a convicted killer who seems to have become obsessed with me, I would even say fixated. If you carry on in this way I will have to report you to the police.
December 23, 2006 at 11:15 PM
Anonymous
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How much was it? Surely Mr Blair isn't that desperate.
December 23, 2006 at 11:16 PM
Anonymous
said...
BTW Hirst I have neer been in prison (+:
December 23, 2006 at 11:21 PM
Anonymous
said...
Peter, (ref 1115) the same thought had crossed my mind: I find this campaign he is waging against you (and sometimes others) to be unnerving and dangerous.
When he first accused you I checked for the existence of the initial "anonymous" reference he claimed. Personally I would say its looks like his phrasing. I believe Guido should be asked to retain his server IP records for the last week to provide conclusive evidence of the poster's id. If you do not have his personal email address then there are others that do.
Furthermore, I believe Ian Dale is to meet him shortly for 18DoughtyStreet. In my view it is only fair that Ian be forwarned. My impression of Hirst is that he has never come to terms with his personal responsibility for his lethal criminal actions. If a member of the public should say the "wrong" thing in his presence - well, the results could be catastrophic.. again.
If I, and I suspect many others on this blog, can be of further assistance then please ask .
December 23, 2006 at 11:46 PM
Anonymous
said...
I don't blame you, have a great Xmas with your family, it was good fun meeting you and the other bloggers last week.
December 24, 2006 at 12:14 AM
Anonymous
said...
I think there is no smoke with out fire. Shouldn't peter hitchins copy and paste his charge sheet if he is as innocent as he claims?
December 24, 2006 at 12:14 AM
Anonymous
said...
if "peter hitchens" is innocent surely he wouldnt have a "charge sheet" You thick cunt (+:
may Israel within her pre-1967 borders enjoy the peace and security that we all wish for ourselves.
What utter rubbish. Israel will never go back to the pre-1967 borders, because
1. Under "Resolution 242" it doesn't have to.
2. "Secure" borders - just 10 miles from the Med - yeah right
There'll will be peace in the Middle East when Islam finally accepts other religions in the region (including Christianity - see Melanie Phillips site) and the only democracy in the Middle East - Israel which has been in a state of war since 1948. (Mainly due to British Foreign Policy in the previous 40 years)
Noticeable that most of the anti - Israel comments are made by "Anonymous" - apart from Peter Hitchens!
Build the wall higher!!
December 24, 2006 at 1:06 AM
Anonymous
said...
Mr Jacobs The sight of a dead Israeli child is as horrific to me as the sight of a dead "Palestinian" child, walls are not the solution. Pax.
December 24, 2006 at 1:42 AM
Anonymous
said...
Jailhouse, in all sincerty at Christmas I hope you are praying hard for the woman you slaughtered, praying for her family, trying to obtain true repentance, and thinking as to how to amend your life, which in your case must obviously be a life-long project.
You must see the true evil of what you did so you can crawl away from hell. There is hope for everybody while they still draw breath. Not if you minimize what you did.
December 24, 2006 at 6:39 AM
Anonymous
said...
And on that story of hope I wish you all a very happy Christmas, and may Israel within her pre-1967 borders enjoy the peace and security that we all wish for ourselves.
If only the Turks would withdraw to their pre-1070 borders Europe could live in peace, tranquillity and security and regain the Hagia Sophia..............maybe Russia could withdraw to its 1920 borders.
Redrawing borders is such fun - maybe India could resume its 1946 borders before the British moved them ?
This game of moving lines on maps is such fun -
December 24, 2006 at 7:33 AM
Anonymous
said...
Enjoyed that Voyager . I am on the other hand slightly concerned about returning this country to the Celts on the basis that they have found an old book that says it is theirs ...( could live with an America observing the pre 1492 boundaries though)
Dear Mr Jacobs -- not all of us objecting to the wall are anonymous. The imposition of Israel on land which it was not in Britain's (or any other country's) to give away is at the root of most of the misery and chaos the region has experienced. It has fuelled the rise of radical Islam, which saw Israel as a colonial imposition on land as sacred to Islam as it is to Judaism. You try having your land taken away by a third party, and a state imposed on you by force, and see how open hearted you'd be about the individuals settling on your land. The situation with Gaza (alluded to in my posting above) is particularly dire.
What has been left after all of this time is an almight mess but is not beyond the efforts of sincere men and women -- politicians and people -- to seek resolution. Most of us want peace; most of us want to be able to iive without that horrible wall, and all it represents. It is a shame on Israel, a shame on Israel's friends, and a shame on the international community.
December 24, 2006 at 9:48 AM
Anonymous
said...
Past form suggests that Guido won't give a flying fuck who called who a paedo. Mind you, things may be different if the target of the slur is a fellow Tory. Let's see...
"peter hitchins" 11.15: As you don't exist you cannot be libelled, which is civil and not criminal. Go ahead punk, make my day. I take it you will not be buying my book when it comes out, nor going to see the film of my life story? If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen. You are the weakest link, goodbye!
For the not-anonymous record, I am anti-Israel and anti-Zionist without being anti-Jew. (In "Zionist", I include the heartless and pea-brained fundie or Rapture-Ready Xians on both sides of the Atlantic.)
... but only other rich, white people; not brown people, Muslims, people living in oil-rich countries, or poor people in New Orleans.
December 24, 2006 at 11:30 AM
Anonymous
said...
JHL nobody is going to buy your book, not only are you uninteresting, you are barely literate. Your delusions of grandeur would laughable if they hadn't led to the slaughter of an innocent woman. Our "conversation" is at an end. Spend the rest of the day contemplating just how much you are despised.
why, I wonder, didn't The New York Times and the other gutless mainstream newspapers in the United States mention Israel's cosy relationship with that very racist apartheid regime in South Africa ... Didn't Israel have a wealthy diamond trade with sanctioned, racist South Africa? Didn't Israel have a fruitful and deep military relationship with that racist regime Independent, 23 Dec 2006.
December 24, 2006 at 11:40 AM
Anonymous
said...
JHL you are a deluded. What you are trying to appear to be and what you are has a credibility gap as wide as the Grand Canyon. And there for all to see. You may sell a few books, appear on 18 Doughty Street and in The Guardian but that does not change who you are - an unrepetent taker of an old lady's life. Go look in the mirror. You can run from your guilt, attempt to rationalise your act but until you acknowledge the inherent evil in what you did, you are trapped in a deceptful existence.
December 24, 2006 at 12:07 PM
Anonymous
said...
On behalf of decent people everywhere I'd like to wish President Bush a Happy Christmas and Iran in 2007.
December 24, 2006 at 12:10 PM
Anonymous
said...
Is Mandelson getting into bed with Cameron?
Portillo seems to think so in today's Sunday Times and, as he quite rightly points out, this could be a major coup for Dave as Mandy knows where all the bodies are buried particularly when it comes to Gordon's shenanigans.
peter hitchins: I think they will. If you did buy it you might learn something. Not only am I interesting, I have been described as extraordinary. I am very literate, unlike yourself and some who blog and post comments. Actually, I will be spending the rest of the day preparing for Christmas Day lunch, except for tonight when I will be celebrating with friends and having a few drams. I will be signing off now until after New Year. Roger and out.
crackers: Indeed you are. Do you intend to register the new word you have invented "deceptful"? WYSIWYG if you don't like, tough shit. All that repent lark is religious crap, I am an atheist. It won't prevent me from enjoying Christmas even though I am a non believer, because it can still be party time.
December 24, 2006 at 1:09 PM
Anonymous
said...
You try having your land taken away by a third party, and a state imposed on you by force
Yes Poland and Germany have a justified grievance as did Hitler in 1938 when you consider what Versailles did to Germans across Europe; and the way Poland was treated at Yalta rewarding Russia for its invasion in 1939.
When will Vladivostok be returned to China ? Schleswig-Holstein to Denmark ? When will Saudi Arabia return Mecca to the Hashemites ?
I do hope we will reincorporate Zambia into Zimbabwe.........and perhaps Taian can be returned to Japan.
These actions should make the Thirty Years War subdued by comparison but reclaiming territory from the Russians would be a good role for the EU
December 24, 2006 at 1:16 PM
Anonymous
said...
JHL Thanks for pointing out the typo. You are making an arse of yourself by pointing out typos. But then you have no self awareness.
You may be an atheist but this is not a reason for not acknowledging the evil of your act. I suspect you are quite pleased that your killing of an old lady in cold blood has brought you some fame and validated your existence. This is what makes you a vile person. To get your vain little life at the expense of another. And then you come along expecting acceptance by trotting out your banal cliches. Look in the mirror and see yourself for what you are. Worthless self deceiving scumbag.
December 24, 2006 at 1:27 PM
Anonymous
said...
Merry christmas Crackers (+: I wish you and your family peace and prosperity.
December 24, 2006 at 1:34 PM
Anonymous
said...
I thought this was supposed to be a political blog not a slanging match for axe-murderers, peadophiles and other assorted scumbags.
December 24, 2006 at 1:36 PM
Anonymous
said...
JHL 1.09 All that repent lark is religious crap, I am an atheist.
Since when did being an atheist mean being devoid of feelings of human decency? Crackers is right on the nail. You are quite enjoying the dubious celebrity your crime has given you.
December 24, 2006 at 1:49 PM
Anonymous
said...
anon@1.36: Guido was in a wtf mood when he left: rolled in a grenade, shut the door and sauntered off humming "Jerusalem".
Merry to you and yours and also to those who have read you posts, expeltives and all, in 06.
Reminder: Lots of water.
Yours
Crackers Dr (Ret)
December 24, 2006 at 2:37 PM
Anonymous
said...
anon 136
apologies to you and others re JHL post. But I just could not allow this unrepetent little cretin to infest this blog with his mendacious self serving advertisements for himself. I'll now shut up. Time to put the bins out. Merry Xmas.
December 24, 2006 at 2:40 PM
Anonymous
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What's this? Cameron teams up with Mandelson and no-one's interested.
Downing Street aides embroiled in the 'cash for honours' inquiry have hired their own lawyers in a sign that the police investigation is dividing Tony Blair's inner circle.
Have a cheeky xmas Guido!
December 24, 2006 at 3:14 PM
Anonymous
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Is appearing in the guido comments the cheapest form of self-publicity available these days? Oh well good luck to anyone that makes a living out of it. Merry Xmas and thanks Guido for a super blog, here's to more fun and for you in 2007.
December 24, 2006 at 3:15 PM
Anonymous
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Hey look:
http://prisonersvoice.blogspot.com/
December 24, 2006 at 3:19 PM
Anonymous
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Good luck to Bob Marshall-Andrews MP in his efforts to have Blair locked up.
Ruth Gledhill, the religion correspondent of the Times and a Christian, takes a characteristically decent, moral and courageous position in criticizing the appalling misrepresentation of the Church of England of the plight of Bethlehem’s Christians and the scapegoating of Israel for their situation by the Archbishop of Canterbury. Ruth also draws attention to another grotesque development in churches around the country, as a direct result of the hatred of Israel that has now been whipped up by the church through its campaign of lies and distortion about Israel and the Arabs:
But just before anyone thinks I’m making a fuss out of nothing, and putting an unnecessarily negative slant on what is, I agree, a mission undertaken in hope and faith, just look at a few of the things happening in the UK around this area. In St Ives, the well-know Live Crib event has been abandoned by the local Roman Catholic church. Instead, they have erected their own ‘wall’. This protest exemplifies the views of so many Christian communities outside Israel.
This is not just happening in CofE churches. A reader sent me this article from the Catholic Herald, followed by her own remarks:
‘…this year, instead of the spectacular [Christmas] tableau, visitors will be staring up at an imposing grey replica portion of the wall built by the Israeli government to keep Palestinian suicide bombers at bay. In place of the crib will be a grim 30ft by 6ft assemblage of painted polystyrene floor insulation materials. This will be flanked by protest banners and ’stark photographs’ to drive home how ‘desperate and ugly the situation is in the Holy Land’. The piece continued that Father Paul Maddison, the parish priest ‘wants to highlight the plight of the Palestinian people’ and a description followed of the ‘Israeli wall’ that ‘will eventually become a 400-mile-long barrier of concrete slabs and barbed wire fences separating Israel from the West Bank.’ Reportedly, “Fr Maddison believes it has ‘devastated’ the lives of ordinary Palestinians. ‘Friends and family are separated, earning a living becomes more and more difficult, access to health care is severely restricted all in the town of Bethlehem that we sing about at this time of the year’”. However he ‘added that he could understand Israel’s need for security but argued that it was wrong to build the wall on Palestinian land. ‘”Israel has the right to live within safe and secure borders…No one can dispute that.’” The ‘replica’ wall will be erected on 15 December and taken down on 27 December. An Israeli Embassy spokesman was quoted at the end of the report, saying the ‘wall’ was a ‘cheap stunt’, that ‘over half of the Israelis’ killed by terrorists in 2005 “were killed by terrorists who came from or through Bethlehem. Today the town is ruled by the terrorist Hamas government. The Security Fence, which is less than four per cent of the total wall, has meant a 93 per cent decrease in terrorist attacks.’
Thus the report was presented with an attempt at balance, but what disturbed me was that, reportedly, the announcement of the ‘replica’ barrier was ‘announced to ’spontaneous applause’” at Sunday Masses at the church in question. I think this is a political rather than a religious stance - many Catholics are left wingish - and seems to reflect the stance of groups like CND and Campaign Against the Arms Trade. I’ve dropped out of both because of their anti-Israel campaigns. There are some who like me respond to items in the Catholic press but we are not organized; perhaps it is time we were. A couple of years ago there was a letter in one of the papers on Jewish responsibility for the crucifixion; a couple of us trounced the person concerned with Church teachings, especially from Vatican II - it turned out he was a member of that part of the Church that broke away in protest at Vatican II, so I don’t think he was typical in terms of theological opinion, especially as the issue didn’t resurface. As I say, I believe the ‘barrier’ story is indicative of a political rather than religious stance, exacerbated by ignorance encouraged by our biased media; it seems this ‘left-right’ split also applies to Jewish opinion, from what I can gather from the Jewish papers? I started to read them when I was studying for a degree in Jewish Christian relations and confess to being baffled by the stances on Israel - however it does go to show what rubbish the ‘Jewish Conspiracy’ is - one would have expected a greater degree of unanimity for a decent conspiracy, after all.
Quite apart from the lies and distortions embodied by these displays, what also comes across is a distressing echo of the most ancient prejudice of all against the Jews. For the replacement of the traditional nativity by Israel’s security fence carries the unmistakeable message that the Palestinians are the modern version of the suffering Christ, being persecuted by the Jews. It’s the crucifixion libel all over again.
Other Christians, I am happy to say, are now standing up and saying to all this ‘not in my name’. Here for example, is a fine and robust response to Rowan Williams from Tony Pearce, pastor of The Bridge Christian Fellowship’
Dear Dr Williams,
I have read the article in ‘The Tablet’ in which you speak about people leaving Bethlehem in large numbers and then ask the question: ‘I would like to know how much it matters to the Israeli Government to have Christian communities in the Holy Land. Are they an embarrassment or are they part of a solution? That’s a question.’
No doubt the Israelis have already given you their answer, perhaps informing you that the Christian Arab population within the pre 1967 borders of Israel has grown from approximately 34,000 in 1948 to nearly 130,000 in 2005. Ironically this is the only part of the Middle East where the Christian population is growing.
You should really have asked the Palestinian Authority how much it matters to them that there are Christian communities in their territory. The main reason for the departure of Christians from PA administered territories is the religious persecution, murder and land grabs which stems from the increased Islamisation of the region. This is the result of the PA adopting Muslim religious law in the territories in contrast to Israel which safeguards the religious freedom on its citizens. You have nothing to say about the likes of George Rabie, featured in a recent article in the Mail on Sunday who is a taxi driver from Bethlehem and was beaten up by Muslims using his cab when they discovered he is a Christian. He said ‘Every day, I experience discrimination. It is a type of racism. We are a minority so we are an easier target. Many extremists from the villages are coming into Bethlehem.’
Nor have you championed the cause of those who have been subjected to forced marriages of Christian women to Muslim men, received death threats for distributing the Bible to willing Muslims, or been intimidated into wearing traditional ultra-modest Islamic clothing. Nor have you written about the churches which have been firebombed by Muslim extremists protesting against the remarks of the Pope (most recently in Nablus, Tubas, and Gaza). Nor about the situation in which Christian Arabs have found their land expropriated by Muslims or been forced to pay bribes to win the freedom of family members jailed on trumped-up charges.
All of this is the main reason why Christian Arabs have been selling or abandoning homes and businesses, seeking to escape the chaos and corruption of the PA and move to Israel, Europe, South America, North America, or wherever they can get a visa.
Why do you have nothing to say about any of this in The Tablet or other public media? Of course you do not need to answer. We all know. No one in public life dares to make any comment even mildly critical of Islamic behaviour. On the other hand Israeli Jews are an easy target. In this way we in the west are already submitting to Islamic demands and behaving like ‘dhimmi’ citizens subject to the rule of the mosque. I find this utterly shameful and a betrayal of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Truth and decency do still live on in these darkest times.
Couldn't you have just posted the link, instead of the whole post?
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Panto Blair:
Where's my career boys and girls?
Panto audience:
IT'S BEHIND YOU!
December 24, 2006 at 11:03 PM
Anonymous
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good on the Israelis. When the hell are we goint to rebuild Hardian's Wall and send Brown, Blair, Reid and all those other scotch wankers back where they came from. And while were at it let's rebuild Offa's Dyke and banish that fat cunt Prescott back to whence he whelped.
........and while we're at it...... How about pushing those Normans, Angles, Saxons and Jutes back where they came from and leave we true Brits to our trogloditic fun.
Must fly.........I've got to piss on my woad before it goes off...
P.S.....and no, we haven't forgotten about you Scandinavians either....
December 25, 2006 at 2:56 AM
Anonymous
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Wow, what a Christmas card this would be! I'm not political, but it points out the nas(z)tiness of superior powers over the innocents. I would order many hundreds, and I'm sure,if people like me feel the same way, we would send this peaceful, thought provoking message around the world. Email(u know wat im doing) gurnygub...@..gmail.com
Merry Christmas all, even the lefties and those of the politically correct persuasion...
December 25, 2006 at 9:03 AM
Anonymous
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but it points out the nas(z)tiness of superior powers over the innocents.
Yes it does doesn't it.........In Matthew 2, the wise men from the East asked Herod the Great where the King of the Jews was to be born. Herod was deeply disturbed, because he had earned the title, King of the Jews, from the Romans, and he was planning that one of his sons would inherit the title from him. Equally disturbing was the news that the child would be born in Bethlehem, the site of Herod's summer palace.
Herod the Great ordered the slaughter of all boys under the age of two years, and Joseph took Mary and Jesus to Egypt for safety. Joseph did not bring his family back to Nazareth until after Herod the Great's death in 4 b.c.
After the death of Herod the Great, the Romans divided his kingdom between his sons, and none of them was called King of the Jews...................Herod Archelaus ruled Judea after the death of his father. In Matthew 2: 22, Joseph decided to take his family north to Galilee, because he was also afraid of Archelaus. Archelaus ruled badly, and the Romans removed him after ten years, replacing him with a Roman.
His brother, Herod Antipas, was tetrarch of Galilee and Perea. In the New Testament, he is called Herod the Tetrarch. Another brother, Herod Philip, was tetrarch of Iturea, Gaulanitis, and Trachonitis. Their cousin, Herodias, first married and divorced an uncle living in Rome, then married Philip, and then divorced Philip to marry Antipas.
When John the Baptist preached against this marriage and divorce pattern within the family, Antipas had him thrown into prison. The daughter of Herodias by her first marriage is unnamed in the New Testament, but she is called Salome (a common name in the family) in later accounts. With her mother's prompting, she requested the head of John the Baptist on a platter, and Antipas ordered John beheaded (Mark 6).
Anything that Ruth Gledhill writes about the Holy Land MUST be seen in the context of her membership of so-called Christian Friends of Israel. (Tony B is one of them, too.) She has shown herself to be just as blind to Israeli government atrocities as any Zionist.
Sorry, Ruth, if you are looking in; but you have demonstrated this horrible betrayal of what Christ represents, on your blog.
By the way, Banksy's image here does not merely portray something out of his imagination: Bethlehem IS surrounded by the Israel government's wall of steel and concrete; the people who remain within it are living in poverty.
December 25, 2006 at 1:45 PM
Anonymous
said...
Maybe things would look up for everyone if Israel extended the wall to incorporate Bethlehem it into it's democracy.
That way, the Palestinian Christians would be safe from the Islamists and Christmas as we know and love it can continue in prosperity.
To all those anonymous idiots, 'Vlad the Impala' and Guido -- go and read www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com and rethink if you really want to defend the Islamic Nazis and their propaganda.
The people you're defending are supremacists, not 'downtrodden' freedom fighters. They will fight for their supremacist ideology down to the last Palestinian child, they keep them in poverty deliberately, and groom them to commit suicide. Gaza is awash with expensive weapons, but curiously devoid of food. No prizes for working out how that has happened.
Btw, Mary and Joseph were Jewish. They would not last 5 minutes without the protection of the IDF and the wall there...
December 25, 2006 at 2:16 PM
Anonymous
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Anything that Ruth Gledhill writes about the Holy Land MUST be seen in the context of her membership of so-called Christian Friends of Israel.
Indigo really makes me sick. She says she's Anti-Zionist, anti-Israel but not anti-Jewish. That's a bit like a Muslim being anti-British, anti-Western but not anti-Christian or Catholic. Great philosophy Indigo. NOT.
Loved this piece in the Daily Mail, entitled "Oh Muslim town of Bethlehem"
All is quiet in Bethlehem. On Manger Square, the Church of the Nativity stands in the pale gloom of dusk, its doors open to passing pilgrims.
But inside, the nave is empty of visitors and the collection boxes depleted of coins.
In the candlelit grotto downstairs, a silver star marks the spot where Jesus is supposed to have been born.
It is one of the most sacred sites in Christendom, but there are no tourists queuing to see it.
Just 500 yards down the road, Joseph Canawati is not looking forward to Christmas.
The expansive lobby of his 77-room Hotel Alexander is empty and he says: "There is no hope for the future of the Christian community.
"We don't think things are going to get better. For us, it is finished."
Life for Palestinian Christians such as 50-year-old Joseph has become increasingly difficult in Bethlehem - and many of them are leaving.
The town's Christian population has dwindled from more than 85 per cent in 1948 to 12 per cent of its 60,000 inhabitants in 2006.
There are reports of religious persecution, in the form of murders, beatings and land grabs.
Meanwhile, the breakdown in security is putting off tourists, leading to economic hardship for Christians, who own most of the town's hotels, restaurants and souvenir shops.
The situation has become so desperate that the Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams, and Cardinal Cormac Murphy O'Connor, the head of the Roman Catholic Church in England and Wales, are to lead a joint delegation to Bethlehem this week to express their solidarity with the beleaguered Christian populace.
The town, according to the Cardinal, is being "steadily strangled".
The sense of a creeping Islamic fundamentalism is all around in Bethlehem.
A mosque on one side of Manger Square stands directly opposite the Greek Orthodox and Roman Catholic churches, while in the evening the muezzin's call to prayer clashes with the peal of church bells.
Shops selling Santa Claus outfits and mother-of-pearl statuettes of the Virgin Mary have their shutters painted a sun-bleached green, the colour of Islam.
And in the Al-Jacir Palace, Bethlehem's only luxury hotel, there is a baubled Christmas tree in reception and a card showing the direction of Mecca in the rooms.
George Rabie, a 22-year-old taxi driver from the Bethlehem suburb of Beit Jala, is proud of his Christianity, even though it puts him in daily danger.
Two months ago, he was beaten up by a gang of Muslims who were visiting Bethlehem from nearby Hebron and who had spotted the crucifix hanging on his windscreen.
"Every day, I experience discrimination," he says. "
"It is a type of racism. We are a minority so we are an easier target. Many extremists from the villages are coming into Bethlehem."
Jeriez Moussa Amaro, a 27-year-old aluminium craftsman from Beit Jala is another with first-hand experience of the appalling violence that Christians face.
Five years ago, his two sisters, Rada, 24, and Dunya, 18, were shot dead by Muslim gunmen in their own home.
Their crime was to be young, attractive Christian women who wore Western clothes and no veil. Rada had been sleeping with a Muslim man in the months before her death.
A terrorist organisation, the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, issued a statement claiming responsibility, which said: "We wanted to clean the Palestinian house of prostitutes."
Jeriez says: "A Christian man is weak compared to a Muslim man.
"They have bigger, more powerful families and they know people high up in the Palestinian authority."
The fear of attack has prompted many Christian families to emigrate, including Mr Canawati's sister, her husband and their three children who now live in New Jersey in America.
"I want to leave but nobody will buy my business," Mr Canawati says. "I feel trapped. We are isolated."
This isolation was heightened when, last year, Bethlehem found itself behind Israel's security wall, a 400-mile-long concrete barrier which separates Jewish and Palestinian areas and is designed to stop suicide bombers - in 2004, half the Israeli fatalities caused by such attacks were committed by extremists from Bethlehem.
Last year, tourists trying to get to the town were forced to queue for hours as their papers were checked, while Bethlehem inhabitants going the other way must now apply for an infrequently granted permit to visit Jerusalem, barely ten minutes away by car.
"It is like living in a prison," says Shadt Abu-Ayash, a 29-year-old Roman Catholic shopkeeper.
The Roman Catholic Mayor of Bethlehem, Dr Victor Batarseh, says: "The political situation in Lebanon and the instability of politics in Palestine has affected tourism and pilgrimage.
"Hotels, restaurants and souvenir shops are owned by mostly Christians so it affects them badly.
"We have 65 per cent unemployment and about 2,000 bedrooms in hotels that are empty."
Bethlehem's hotel owners estimate that tourist numbers have dropped sharply, from 91,276 each month for the millennium celebrations in 2000 to little more than 1,500 a month now.
During the past six years, 50 restaurants, 28 hotels and 240 souvenir shops have closed.
Samir Qumsieh is general manager of Al-Mahed - Nativity - which is the only Christian television station in Bethlehem.
He has had death threats and visits from armed men demanding three acres of his land - and he is now ready to leave.
"As Christians, we have no future here," he says.
"We are melting away. Next summer I will leave this country to go to the States. How can I continue?
"I would rather have a beautiful dream in my head about what my home is like, not the nightmare of the reality."
I wonder what the Archbishop of Canterbury will say when the Christians are finally driven out of the West Bank, sorry Judea.
The only place Christians can feel safe in the Middle east is, of course, Israel.
December 25, 2006 at 4:36 PM
Anonymous
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Stop trying to equate anti-zionism and anti-Israel with anti-semitism, Jacobs, you little turd.
Mr Jacobs, I am anti-Zionist and anti the government of Israel; I am not anti-Jew. Not my fault if that is too sophisticated for your room-temperature IQ.
Jacobs, Loved this piece in the Daily Mail, entitled "Oh Muslim town of Bethlehem"
Voyager Why so-called [Christian Friends of Israel]? Were you refused membership ?
You are not paying attention, are you? Why would I want to be a Friend of Israel? I am a friend of Palestine.
December 25, 2006 at 8:09 PM
Anonymous
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WTF !!! Absentmindedly visited this site when I should be looking for festive porn and find it's been taken over by the Comment is Free mob from the Grauniad. Does Guido know you're doing this on his turf? He won't be amused. This is about as witty & amusing as the BBC1 Christmas Day schedule. FFS more smut, more swearing (where's Phitch when we need him?) Who gives a toss about the ragheads? Or the kikes? The only thing that interests them is the size of our cheques. Come on you lot - sing some carols , pull some crackers (OK for those with wives or significant others fantasise) get pissed, have a row with the mother-in-law, swear at the kids. It's Christmas. It's traditional.
I don't know where to start with cinnamon's brain-washed condition so I won't waste time trying.
The IDF of 0 BC were the Roman occupiers. Nowadays, Mary and Joseph would face 15 checkpoints. Times, 23 December a year ago; but nothing has changed, unless there are even more checkpoints.
Let us not forget, too, that Islam reveres Jesus as an important prophet who, according to some sources, will return to earth in the company of the Mahdi to redeem believers.
December 25, 2006 at 8:19 PM
Anonymous
said...
Well spoken that man in the silly red hat.
Ho!Ho!Ho!Ho!Ho!
(as they say in Ipswich these days)
December 25, 2006 at 8:31 PM
Anonymous
said...
Fuck off you boring bastards, I just popped in for a bit of politician slagging ho-ho-ho! And what is there, all you wankers with loads of religious baggage. Guido will sort you lot, mark my words!
December 25, 2006 at 8:49 PM
Anonymous
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This picture makes no sense. Why should the nice looking Jewish couple want to cross into splodydope land anyway?
December 25, 2006 at 8:58 PM
Anonymous
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Anat, We can tell one thing from the picture. The middle eastern gentleman is leading the woman on the donkey so he doesn't expect there to be any mines.
December 25, 2006 at 9:33 PM
Anonymous
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anon@9.33
give that man another drink!
December 25, 2006 at 9:53 PM
Anonymous
said...
the picture is political and ignores the images of civilian buses bombed by islamic terrorists.
Perhaps a cartoon depicting the blocked gate of the Temple Mount, walled up after Saladin's conquest of Jerusalem in 1187 - to prevent the Messiah riding through.
That of course wouldnt fit the propaganda. Would it?
December 25, 2006 at 10:08 PM
Anonymous
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Its like playing wack-a-mole round here:
mong@10.08 - FUCK OFF!
December 25, 2006 at 10:47 PM
Anonymous
said...
incisive wit @10.47
10.08 must have a point...
December 25, 2006 at 11:16 PM
Anonymous
said...
on that logic @10.08/11.16, you must have a brain, but where's the proof? Tosser.
December 25, 2006 at 11:26 PM
Anonymous
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Anonymous said... 11.16
Is your real name Tosser? Bad luck, getting sucked into a failed advertising campaign.
December 25, 2006 at 11:49 PM
Anonymous
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mong@1149: Circumcise your head by mistake did they?
12.12 You poor dear. Go and sleep in the corner til its all over.
December 26, 2006 at 12:32 AM
Anonymous
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Don't know how long this'll last but goto http://www.france24.com which for those who havn't heard is a new internetTV news channel, select for the English front page in the header bar and then click on the "French in Afghanistan" story bottom left.
Since the mong @ 11.51 used the word: A tourist couple are wandering thru the back-streets of Jerusalem when they chance upon a shop window containing a display of fine clocks. |The husband is particularly taken by one of them so they enter the shop to enquire the price. The shopkeeper regrets that the clock is not for sale and further more that none of the clocks are for sale. The tourist asks the shopkeeper why, as a clockmaker, he doesn't want to sell any of his clocks. "Ah" says the shopkeeper "I see your mistake. I'm not a clockmaker. I'm a mohel." "Whats a mohel?" he's asked. "I'm the man who performs the circumcisions." "So why do you have clocks in your window?" asks the tourist. "Well, what should I have in my window?" is the reply.
December 26, 2006 at 12:59 AM
Anonymous
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Anon 12.59
shame, cos "ERROR _ No such page exists on this site." Looked so much more appropriate. Oh and Mlle Grenouille looking over my shoulder reckons we're both a word I don't know how to spell.
December 26, 2006 at 1:15 AM
Anonymous
said...
We, who are whole&entire , give Thanks to Gawd for Jesus that we should be so spared.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohel
Amen
December 26, 2006 at 1:30 AM
Anonymous
said...
THE "HITCHES" CHRISTMAS MESSAGE
Fuck me what a bunch of boring cunts! Fuck the palestinians and fuck the Yids! I say let the cunts kill each other and keep the rest of us out of it, fucking bacon avoiding wankers the lot of them! why the fuck anybody wants to live, let alone fight, to live in that hot, fly blown waterless shithole is fucking beyond me. Jews, come back to Europe where you belong, help us sort out our rag head problem and leave the fuckers to carry on riding about on donkeys and kissing the ground five times a day praying To Allah for mercy, the fucking workshy cunts! Have wales, its mainly fucking empty, the cunts that live there are mostly subnormal and therefore easily dealt with and it has access to the sea, you could make it the most successful country in Europe (do I live in europe? I've forgotten) Cunts!
December 26, 2006 at 1:45 AM
Anonymous
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Ah! PH, glad u surfaced. Thought I was batting alone here. Hope xmas telly was ok. Sorry to hear the piles are playing up.
December 26, 2006 at 1:52 AM
Anonymous
said...
Sorry to hear about Stanislav Peter! I've got some spare tubes of stuff for the other problem too!
Just bang on the door and come in!
December 26, 2006 at 5:35 AM
Anonymous
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Let us not forget, too, that Islam reveres Jesus as an important prophet
Yes - I hear Dan Brown wrote him into his fictional works too...........Mohammedanism tries to elevate an illiterate Arabian Jesse James over the resurrected Son Of God................nice try but not for thinking people
December 26, 2006 at 8:20 AM
Anonymous
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Pedro Hitchens, if they only hit each other I'd be all for your suggestion, but alas, the yids did manage to bomb the shit out of the Christian areas of Lebanon as well. Mi problemo es su problemo.
But the real question is, of course, what does Bono say?
December 26, 2006 at 8:46 AM
Anonymous
said...
Wot is goin down heah, man? Where is Winston de Champ when we need him?
December 26, 2006 at 9:31 AM
Anonymous
said...
Jew hatred is a funny thing. Where does it come from? Its almost as if it comes through the ether.
It is not new and is predicted as is the diaspora and return to Israel.
The Jew haters are simply acting on satan's behalf. They are here to test you. But better to be cursed by satan than cursed by God.
I’m afraid that I really doubt that Jew-haters act on Satan's behalf, unless you truly believe that humanity is just a long test of faith between good and evil in which case I am sure you can win the National Lottery since it would be down to fate and not probability. Hatred of Jews comes, like most forms of hatred, from fear, envy and ignorance with a few unpleasant self-interest groups thrown in to stir things up nicely for their own profit.
What I have found intriguing from the above comments is the contempt that some people have for what I presume is their own religion. It seems to be exactly that behaviour that the Islamic fundamentalists and, to a lesser extent, the Israelis point to when they justify their actions of brutality - that the weak imbeciles in the West won't intervene over Bethlehem or Nazareth anyway since they are contemptuous of their own religion. All we do to protect Christians caught between a rock (Israel) and a hard place (Palestinian territories) is to wring our hands saying, "oh this is dreadful, especially on Christmas Day" and then send probably the 2 most ineffectual men we have (Archbishops of Westminster and Canterbury) to try and mediate with fundamentalist organisations like Hamas or with states on a clear war footing like Israel. Murphy-O’Connor (Arch. Westminster) actually did do the hand-wringing bit this holiday, pleading for Palestinian Christians to stay in Bethlehem, despite the knowledge that the local Islamic fundamentalists now regard resident Christians as 'legitimate' target practice.
As much as I truly hate to admit this, Saddam Hussein did do more to protect Christians in his country (bear in mind his Foreign Minister was a Christian) that we appear to be doing to protect Christians in our most holy of holy places – the birthplace of our Christ.
What a crying shame.
December 26, 2006 at 11:41 AM
Anonymous
said...
anonymous 9.43am: "Jew hatred is a funny thing. Where does it come from?"
"Jew hatred" as you call it, is obnoxious as is hatred of any fellow humans based on their ethnicity or religion.
Don't confuse "Jew hatred" with hatred of a government (Israel) that operates a system of occupation and apartheid
This hatred is not "a funny thing" - it is logically and morally justified and is a wonderful thing.
December 26, 2006 at 12:15 PM
Anonymous
said...
Anon@9.43
Pathetic Thetans, its nothing to do with Satan but everything to do with the evil emperor Xenu!! You would have seen more of his handiwork in other events, such as 9/11, if it wasnt for the fact his brainwashed followers were unable to find any space travelling DC8s and had to make do with 737s (which probably couldnt travel in space). Anyway dont you see? my made up sky-gods are better than yours
Anyway now you know, please send me all your money and prepare for a purity examination in the form of having a citrus fruit shoved up your ar$e
December 26, 2006 at 12:20 PM
Anonymous
said...
mr travolta, Is it true that you "bat for the other side"? like tom cruise you are "a mans man" ?
I am a big fan (very big)
December 26, 2006 at 1:32 PM
Anonymous
said...
@12.20
Dear John,
I have seen the light!
But there are so many many questions. You must guide me!
Which way must I orient my pc during worship? Is Xenu(pbuh) nice to talk to? Has He written a book? Can He fly?
I guess I shouldn't be surprised that those sad bastards that don't even have a name, have nothing to do, what with Comment is Free not being updated over Christmas.
Get yourself a name, a life and maybe even an argument or two.
I know its difficult for thick lefties to comprehend, but the wall wouldn't exist if the Palestinian National Sport wasn't suicide bombing.
December 26, 2006 at 1:44 PM
Anonymous
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Verity 12:15 Since the fact of the matter is that Israel operates neither occupation nor apartheid, you may ask yourself who propagated this lie and why.
BTW, as to apartheid, where are the Jews of Iraq, Syria, Morocco, Egypt and those areas of Palestine occupied by the Jordanians in 1949? Altogether over a million people? Ever thought why they had to leave and where they went?
December 26, 2006 at 3:33 PM
Anonymous
said...
Lets face it , these Jew bastards have it coming to them , they have stolen a country and persecuted that countrys rightful inhabitants. They get no sympathy from me.
December 26, 2006 at 4:38 PM
Anonymous
said...
they have stolen a country.
I can see your time in jail did not encourage you to reflect. There was NO country prior to Israel being reformed in 1948 in contrast to India which was subdivided in the Independence of India Act 1947 to form Pakistan, which is to all intents and purposes an illegitimate Muslim state on Indian sovereign territory.
Do you also want to return the Bekaa Valley to Syria - the French moved it from Syria into Lebanon ?
Do you wish to destroy the state of Jordan ? Clearly those so busy attacking Israel are prepared to destroy Jordan too.............mind you the Hashemites should have the Hejaz returned and the House of Saud evicted from Mecca.
It is probably time for the Kurds to have their slices of Iran and Turkey and Syria, and the Turks to withdraw back to Central Asia.
But anyone writing such nonsensical drivel as they have stolen a country should be sent for a course in remedial education to learn some history
December 26, 2006 at 4:47 PM
Anonymous
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Voyager 4:47
You are right, of course. But for those guardianista Syrians and Jordanians are one thing and Jews are a completely different thing. They are not antisemitic, you know, they just apply different rules to Jews.
December 26, 2006 at 5:14 PM
Anonymous
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JHL
"They get no sympathy from me..."
Neither did the old lady that you murdered. Get back under your rock you vermin.
December 26, 2006 at 5:22 PM
Anonymous
said...
I see that the decrepid old Michael Meacher fancies his chances at taking on Brown.(according to the Sunday Mirro) .what a self-delusional loser (Meacher that is!)still, he's got to be better than McDonnell - just!
December 26, 2006 at 5:45 PM
Anonymous
said...
Everybody, don't worry about this wall, I'll just go there and bring it down through the power of my music - just like in Berlin in 89.
Love n'peace
The Hoff
Note: David Hasselhoff will not be appearing in Panto this year. He is however considering a position in the LibDems as offering the best 'life fit' for him.
December 26, 2006 at 5:52 PM
Anonymous
said...
The Wall,is the wall built to keep at bay all the --- woofters,Lesbians,Transexuals and Homosexuals who are have and are still taking over the Conservative Party. In Conservative Home last week there was a clear exponification of the Torygraph or the Torygaygraph,whichever way you feel,as well, as the tentacles or testacles of the gay community taking over the party. One old lad claimed if he met one he would kick them in the you know what. Talking on the subject the question of chemical castration cropped up by the gay power brokers of the Blair brigade.
December 26, 2006 at 7:46 PM
Anonymous
said...
So...Jews are the bullies of Christians in Bethlehem and 'Palestine'? Are you gents on crack?:
George Rabie, a 22-year-old taxi driver from the Bethlehem suburb of Beit Jala, is proud of his Christianity, even though it puts him in daily danger.
Two months ago, he was beaten up by a gang of Muslims who were visiting Bethlehem from nearby Hebron and who had spotted the crucifix hanging on his windscreen.
"Every day, I experience discrimination," he says. "
"It is a type of racism. We are a minority so we are an easier target. Many extremists from the villages are coming into Bethlehem."
Jeriez Moussa Amaro, a 27-year-old aluminium craftsman from Beit Jala is another with first-hand experience of the appalling violence that Christians face.
Five years ago, his two sisters, Rada, 24, and Dunya, 18, were shot dead by Muslim gunmen in their own home.
Their crime was to be young, attractive Christian women who wore Western clothes and no veil. Rada had been sleeping with a Muslim man in the months before her death.
A terrorist organisation, the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, issued a statement claiming responsibility, which said: "We wanted to clean the Palestinian house of prostitutes."
Jeriez says: "A Christian man is weak compared to a Muslim man.
The fear of attack has prompted many Christian families to emigrate, including Mr Canawati's sister, her husband and their three children who now live in New Jersey in America.
Anonymous 7.53 pm - you lose the argument when the source you quote is "The Daily Mail".
December 26, 2006 at 8:38 PM
Anonymous
said...
Anonymous 7.53 pm - you lose the argument when the source you quote is "The Daily Mail".
That's so weak.
So according to your world view, Christians are treated well by Islamists? RIGHT. I suppose you are one of those stupid enough to think that Bethlehem's remaining Christians are better off under a Hamas and/or Fatah regime than under Israeli contol?
Way to go...
There would not even be a fence if the Arab's had accepted the 1948 UN partition of Palestine instead of trying for a genocidal victory against the Jews (and also if they taught their youth something other than suicide bombing 101).
December 26, 2006 at 10:22 PM
Anonymous
said...
Just think,3 blokes on camels,a few shepherds,bunch of animals,happy couple and a new-born baby in a stable would constitute a terrorist cell in Palestine and the good folk of the IDF would launch one of their heroic Apache Helicopter rocket attack.Is it anti-semitic to say the State of Israel is a fucking abomination?
December 27, 2006 at 12:02 AM
Anonymous
said...
Anonymous 7:53 said: Jeriez Moussa Amaro, a 27-year-old aluminium craftsman from Beit Jala is another with first-hand experience of the appalling violence that Christians face.
Fuck all to do with him being a Christian,more the purge by Hamas on aluminium craftsmen,the untold and hidden undercurrent of the middle-eastern conflict.Ever wish you`d stuck to Zinc Jeriez?
December 27, 2006 at 12:11 AM
Anonymous
said...
Nice picture Guido,maybe you`re not such a wanker after all.Only joking obviously.
December 27, 2006 at 12:26 AM
Anonymous
said...
If Jesus saw Bethlehem today, the first thing he would wonder is what Arabs and Muslims are -- they invaded and stole the land from its Christian inhabitants by military force in the seventh century A.D. -- and he would be deeply confused as to why they are are occupying his ancient Judeo-Christian homeland.
P.S. To the Islamists, Israel is the appetizer. The main course is the West.
December 27, 2006 at 1:27 AM
Anonymous
said...
Guido, could you pull another sex scandal out of your hat (or wherever it is you get them...your voicemail?). This is getting old.
On the other hand, the magic of Christmas is truly manifest on Earth, as it appears that Verity and I are in perfect agreement on something. I think I just lost a bet.
December 27, 2006 at 8:15 AM
Anonymous
said...
Raincoaster ( "... it appears that Verity and I are in perfect agreement ... I think I just lost a bet.")
Have we met?
December 27, 2006 at 8:51 AM
Anonymous
said...
We could do with a rant about Blair running out of runway fast...or maybe just freeloading again...
December 27, 2006 at 9:52 AM
Anonymous
said...
Pah! The idle rich. Come on Guido get out of yer pit! Blair is collecting more favours from another aged pop-star. Cliff wanted copyright extended, what does Gibb want?
287 comments:
«Oldest ‹Older 1 – 200 of 287 Newer› Newest»Merry Christmas Mr F,
Enjoy the break.
...and I'm sure banksy will be feeling peaceful when he finds out his stuff is turning up here.
Can't resist being controversial, even over Winterval, can you? Enjoy the holidays.
'mostly off-line' = 'mostly pissed'?
What's the betting you get fed up by Tuesday and start up again here?
Nice pic. I think the barrier that the Israli's have erected suffers from not having a suitable Churchillian accolade, a la 'The Iron Curtain.'
Perhaps the 'Yiddish Palisade' or the 'Jewish Facade.'
I am sure other can do better, Merry Xmas Mr F. and all.
Why have sheep been allowed to walk onto the green? To the caddy's left?
Don't see what you're complaining about. It also keeps King Herod's blokes on the other side.
That is well off. You know why the wall had to be built, too many Palestinian's wished the Israelis' a 'Merry Death' in form of suicide bombers.
Maybe you should also have put a little tree up with handgranades as decoration, just for 'balance', topped off by a Kassam rocket?
Pfui Guido! :(
Keith Dovkunts said...
Why have sheep been allowed to walk onto the green? To the caddy's left?
That's some fucking bunker to the right!
Sheep were the equivalent of an Atco or Hayterette in those days.
Joseph will be playing the back 9 only, though....
Joseph: How the fuck are we going to get that Nail bomb into the kindergarten now?
Leave a thread open so that all Guidos Bloggers can wish each other or somebody else ALL THE BEST AND THE REST OVER THIS FESTIVE PERIOD--OR OTHERWISE-you know what we mean Guido. You know the usual cribbing and backbiting,insults and political critique.
"So that's been built to keep us from having to look at Melanie Philllips' face?? Well worth the dtour then!"
"Now Mary , you drive the Donkey at the wall and detonate it at the last second"
Joe: "Don't blame ME. The directions distinctly stated that Green Hill Far Away was WITHOUT a city wall. The bastards have obviously just built this".
Startlingly idle of you, Guido. I will be online.
"mostly off-line"
- unless there are startling revelations from one scandal or another, we hope. 'Cos Christmastide is the time of the year with the worst record for break-ups, back-stabbings, telling the boss exactly what you think of him and letting the cat out of the bag while pissed.
Ever thought of adding your number to the list of emergency numbers? Fire, Police, Ambulance, Samaritans - and Guido.
Have a good one.
Cinnamon has obviously had his senses distorted by the aroma from chanuka candles.
Perhaps this is this Lord Levy's last defence
Blimey Guido you only just got back from holiday!!!
A peaceful Christmas to you, too, Guido.
cinnamon and anonymous 3:34 PM: if the wall prevented the 51st rogue state's helicopter gunships and tanks (provided free, gratis and for nothing by the US) from killing Palestinian children, flattening houses with Palestinian families still inside them, knee-capping Palestinian men at road-blocks, kidnapping doctors and detaining them without recourse to legal representation or fair trial, and cutting off the water supplies, well - it might be worth having. But it doesn't: it is the horrendous boundary to an open prison for Palestinian civilians. Herod would have been orgasmically proud of the Israeli government and the IDF.
Guido,
Before you go, I've got these accredited photographs with a signed confession pinned to two resignation letters together with signed and witnessed copies of a Metropolitan Police transcript of a statement and a photocopy of an arrest warrant for grand felony and corruption which have been ratified by a high court judge.
Will you be around over the w/e to get these on your blog please?
Guido,
If not I'll give them to Mr Hitchens (-;
Lt.Col Scroble-Ne
Your pic makes the point.
Merry Xmas from Sicily and thanks for cheering me up over the year, Guido.
Q. What have Tony Blair and Lord Levy got in common with the shepherds watching their flocks?
A. Both lots are used to handling crooks.
Merry Christmas.
Thank you Guido, for providing endless amusement to all of us air guitar players.
Watch out for Palestinians winning gold medals for Pole Vault at next Olympics!
Party games for Christmas!!
Try to guess the identity of the Nu Labour turd, patprimer posting here. The winner gets a threesome with Hazel Blears and Ruth Kelly or Gordon Brown and Peter Mandelson if you're really weird:
http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=39359&st=90
Well it's not Alistair Campbell because he's posting under his own name.
Nice pic BTW Guido. It's certainly pissed off the neocon contingent on here. They don't like not having everything their own way, do they?
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year Guido! And thanks for this blog, which I've only fairly recently discovered.
Happy Christmas
...and an exceedingly Merry New Year.
Don't come back sober. It really doesn't help.
Gawd bless you Mister Fawkes - and Mrs fawkes and Miss Fawkes also.
PS I advise against purchase of cast iron frying pan's for Mrs Fawkes' this Christmas.
Idle, I think in the quaint old English of the carol writer "WITHOUT a city wall" means outside (as within/without) so it's just back to how it was.
Nice people those Israelis.
A Joyeux Noel to all, particularly the Palestinians.
The wall says it all
Suicide bombers are all a trampled people have
Israel has helicopters to blitscreig the ghettos which easily fly over the wall
to the dead there is not much diff except the suicide bomber only does it once..
The coward in the helicopter at not risk to himself continues to murder
Happy Christmas
"Guido will be mostly off-line", is there a difference between this and when he is mostly on-line?
I wish Guido and Peter Hitchins every success playing the Chuckle Brothers in pantomime!
What if I needs to leak major velopments re me vestigations?
What am i gonna do then ey?
Libertarianism is the only path forward fellows
Next year I will be mostly vestigating Lib Dems, the shameless bottom feeders of that politics shyte
If you get bored while Guido's away pissing it up then pop along over here and join in:
http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?act=SF&s=&f=22
Anonymous said...
The winner gets a threesome with Hazel Blears and Ruth Kelly or Gordon Brown and Peter Mandelson if you're really weird:
If I put on a clean nappy can I have a ride on Gordons rocking horse?
It's not Ed Balls or any other New Liebour apparatchik -- just some wanker spouting Newspeak and winding up the taxpayers. I'd say he's got his snout in the junior trough, with a gold-plated pension at the end of it courtesy of the people he's insulting. Probably a council employee engaged in "outreach". Counselling for cottagers, or the like.
haddock @ 6.18 -
I hope the haddock that is going into my kedgeree tomorrow is fresher than you - I'm au fait with the grammar and the intent of the original lyric, it was simply a weak attempt at punning on my part.
Happy Christmas and humbugs to all fellow travellers, and Bah Humbug to all trolls.
Idle
Anonymong@6.27
"..to blitscreig the ghettos.."
your spelling needs special treatment.
jhl 7:04
you need special treatment.
anonymous 11.01 : That's kind of you to offer. People like me with a sensitive nature do need special treatment. Humanity is a good starting point.
Think of all the poor prisoners at this time of the year, no doubt they will be eating tinned turkey again. Has Bernard Matthews no compassion?
Ho, ho, Ohhhhhh!
Santa dies at children's party
Press Association
Friday December 22, 2006
Guardian Unlimited
Children watched in horror as a Santa Claus collapsed and died as he handed out presents at a Christmas party on Sunday.
Andrew Robertson was taken ill as the excited youngsters received their gifts. The 82-year-old was taken to a side room and attempts made to revive him, but he was pronounced dead when medics arrived.
Mr Robertson, from Dundee, had played Santa at the city's Broughty Castle bowling club Christmas party, held for the grandchildren of members, for several years.
Article continues
"Andy was a father figure in the club who never had a bad word to say about anyone," Ian Smart, the bowling club's secretary, said. "If you asked him to do anything for you, he would always say 'no problem'.
"One wee kid said 'how are we going to get our presents next week if Father Christmas is ill?' - they didn't understand what had happened."
Mr Smart said Mr Robertson, who had played an active role in the club, was "well liked and will be sorely missed".
Mr Robertson's brother, Alister, said he had complained about feeling hot shortly before collapsing.
"The kids saw him getting taken away," he told the Courier newspaper. "They knew something was wrong with Santa Claus as he went away with the two guys, but they didn't see anything further.
"It has been quite a shock for everybody, but my view is that he was there thoroughly enjoying himself when he was struck down."
Gudio is doing his tax return http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6202771.stm
That's a pretty disgraceful cartoon. What about all the murder and injustice committed by Muslims in Bethlehem (as detailed by Cranmer)? Perhaps, if shown from another angle, we can see a swarm of eager suicide bombers clamouring at the other side of the wall.
jhl 11.01 "People like me ... do need special treatment."
"special treatment" = spezielle Behandlung = Zyklon B = dead.
gotit now hirsty?
anon 1051&1101
Anyone who doesn't know hirst can find out here > http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/article/0,,1949501,00.html
Well why not read up on a little history this Christmas, you can start here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amin_al-Husayni
and here: www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com
enjoy, and try not to choke on your multicultural festive desert whilst studying those pages.
Guard towers, lethal fences, machine guns ...where have I seen those images before?
All it's lacking really are those little skull and crossbones signs.
cawp said...
That's a pretty disgraceful cartoon....
Would you have preferred a photo?
anonymous 2.21: Are you anonymous because you escaped the Nuremberg Trial?
Clearly there is no room at the intifada....
I love the picture of Joseph and Mary and the unborn little baby Jesus. Thankyou Guido for the festive cheer. You have cheered an elderly and frankly disappointed lady's heqrt. But why is there a wall there in their way? Who could have built that? I have will have to ask Dave. Perhaps he will know.
Cinnamon, good to know that there's a consistent attitude to terrorism among Israelis:
http://wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing
Perhaps we should have built a 'fence'
Happy Chanukah
Mary to Joseph: "You and your Sat Nav, next time buy a map!"
Happy Christmas to all.
Clearly keeping up the touchy feely bit right through the holiday season, Guido. To all those who feel that the wall is justified, and the cartoon in bad taste, tough. Try living in Gaza, folks. President Carter said it best. Apartheid. Not a nice word, and not a nice wall, either. Thought Berlin should have demonstrated the point that once you get into wall construction, you've lost the ideological argument.
A happy Christmas and a (relatively) peaceful New Year to you too Paul.
Jailhouse lawyer
I hope you have a fucking terrible and lonely Christmas , sat there with your mangey dog , skint knowing that you are despised by everybody who knows you including your own family.
With any luck you may choke to death on your Christmas pud!
Peter.
Anonymous said...
Would you have preferred a photo?
Well, I'm not sure cameras existed to capture Mary and Joseph travelling to Bethlehem. And the wall, of course, didn't exist then - because neither did Muslim terrorists.
Apartheid? Only in the same way that murder being illegal is a form of discrimination. Morons.
When it comes to murder, particularly of women and children, your Israeli friends are the undisputed champions, cawpshite.
I can see little difference between the reasons given for building the walls around the Bethlehem Ghetto and those for building the walls around the Warsaw Ghetto; in the one case, it was to contain 'typhoid', in the other 'terrorism'.
Both actually serve to contain the fear and guilt of their builders.
http://bethlehemghetto.blogspot.com/
When it comes to murder, particularly of women and children, your Israeli friends are the undisputed champions, cawpshite.
Yeah, right. Don't seem to recall too many Israeli parents selling off their children to be suicide bombers, or too many Israeli kids detonating themselves at Palestinian bus stations.
Funny how since Saddam was bagged, tagged and booked in for his hemp fandango class, one doesn't see any Palestinians too anxious to be Allah's little explosions any more. Could it be that nobody is prepared to shell out the requisite US$10,000 per martyr that Saddam used to pay? Heavens forbid that Hamas followers would only kill Israelis if there was a large paycheque in it for them, eh?
Julian I dint recall any members of hamas running over peace demonstrators with bulldozers or deliberately sniping at children, nor stealing peoples land nor hanging british soldiers
people become "terrorists" for a reason sweetie
There was no wall when Jesus was born because there were no Palestinians and the Romans kept world order better than the UN
peter hitchens said...
Julian.......
people become "terrorists" for a reason sweetie
Peter, don't waste your breath on that slimeball. He's only capable of thinking tribally.
Professor Kevin MacDonald explains it well:
http://www.kevinmacdonald.net/books.htm
Oh, and you're just overflowing with seasonal goodwill.
All those moaning about Guido knocking the Israelis - he was previously criticised for supporting their invasion of Lebanon!
anon 4:12
julian is pretty funny , and on the ball , he doesnt need insulting just because you disagree with him( as i do ) on a certain very emotive issue(+:
Roll on 2007, the year El Gordo's financial chickens finally come home to roost.
Roll on 2007, the year El Gordo's financial chickens finally come home to roost.
Hope you rich thieves from The City get to pay for them
"peter hitchins" You don't mean that. Bah humbug. You scrooge. According to anonymous on the webcameron thread you are a paedophile. Is it true?
Oh dear, oh dear. Typhoid was a crock. We all know anti-semitism was the real reason for the Warsaw ghetto. Terrorism, however, is not a crock. We have all seen the martyrdom videos, the news reports, the interviews with proud parents... hence the wall, which reduces them significantly. Do you really think the Israelis have done it because, after 50 or so years, they suddenly developed Arabophobia? How, then, to explain the full citizenship rights of Israeli Arabs...
I'm not sure you quite appreciate how sinister and ridiculous you appear when morally conflating the Israelis with the Nazis. You are filth.
Listen to those piggies squeal
According to anonymous on the webcameron thread you are a paedophile. Is it true?
No, but carry on you grotty little murderer (+:
Peasent,
Just think, in 48 hours time I will be sat with my family, full of good food and drink and surrounded by love, you on the other hand will be sat on your own (apart from the dog)in your shitty dirty hovel full of the knowledge that you have neither love nor hope in your life.
Merry christmas
peter (+:
Fellow party workers,
Seasons' greetings, enjoy the festivities while you can, for in the new year there will be much toil for you.
Govenment debt is spiraling out of control, we will have to cull loyal workers if we can't extract enough taxes from the middle class wreckers.
The motto for 2007 is "Slash and Burn"
K
On Christmas Day, hostilities cease - temporarily - between Hitchens (Peter) and JailhouseL (Killer).
Football in no man's land. Battledress tunics for goalposts. Swapping of snout and hipflasks all round.
My bet is that Hitch gives him an elbow early doors and then does a Uruguayan defender's job on his cojones as he writhes on the floor.
Red card for Hitch but trudges off to a roar of respect from the crowd.
And that's all from Paeschendale. Back to you, Des.
Scott said "You are Filth"
Ah yes. The reasoned voice of Zionism. Go on then old dear, call me 'vermin' and untermensch as well - you know you want to.
As our hearts go out to the dismal Christmas that those in the Ghetto of Bethlehem are suffering, here at home our Catholic churches will be packed with Poles. A brave a resilient people, for whom we went to war against the nazi tyrany. In Poland at Christmas in 1941 things were as bleak as they are now in Bethlehem; the country had been occupied by an invader who cared little for the rule of law, Polish land had been annexed by the invader, Polish farmers who had been there for a thousand years driven out and their homes and land given to German settlers.
Yet in that bleak winter, news came that the Poles were fighting back. With no weapons but home-made explosives, they targeted the German occupiers, sometimes at a tremendous cost in retributions against the civilian population. But they had hope - and their sacrifice gave us all hope.
And on that story of hope I wish you all a very happy Christmas, and may Israel within her pre-1967 borders enjoy the peace and security that we all wish for ourselves.
It's getting like Lord of the Flies in here.
raedwald: may Israel within her pre-1967 borders enjoy the peace and security that we all wish for ourselves.
Amen to that.
Why not make becoming a citizen of Bethlehem - a Palestinian city with a mixed Christian-Muslim community, in the occupied West Bank - one of your New Year's Resolutions.
Remember "Iraq's oil will pay for the war"? Remember "it'll be a cake walk"?
Having interviewed major US neocon players in the past few years, David Rose in January's Vanity Fair returns to check in with them. He says, "I expected to enounter disappointment. What I find instead is despair and fury at the incompetence of the Bush administration . . ."
Professor Eliot Cohen of Johns Hopkins University's School of Advanced International Studies, yet another Defense Policy Board member and longtime advocate of ousting Saddam Hussein, is even more pessimistic: "People sometimes ask me, 'If you knew then what you know now, would you still have been in favor of the war?' Usually they're thinking about the W.M.D. stuff. My response is that the thing I know now that I did not know then is just how incredibly incompetent we would be, which is the most sobering part of all this. I'm pretty grim. I think we're heading for a very dark world, because the long-term consequences of this are very large, not just for Iraq, not just for the region, but globally—for our reputation, for what the Iranians do, all kinds of stuff."
David Frum: "I always believed as a speechwriter that if you could persuade the president to commit himself to certain words, he would feel himself committed to the ideas that underlay those words. And the big shock to me has been that, although the president said the words, he just did not absorb the ideas. And that is the root of, maybe, everything."
Eliot Cohen ... his best hope now is not something on the way toward democracy but renewed dictatorship, perhaps led by a former Ba'thist: ...
Excellent six-page article.
And it would appear that Jordan Eason intends to be part of that new gravy train. (The Iraq Slogger domain is registered personally to Jordan Eason, there is a lot of disinformation already there, and its aims appear to include gathering intelligence from Iraqis under the pretence of being their friend.)
Will Tony's legacy be, after nearly a million Iraqi civilians have died, the reinstatement of the dictator - none other than Saddam Hussein?
Somehow raedwald I doubt many poles then or now would feel happy with their heroes being equated with islamists. The polish Home Army was overwhelmingly catholic where it wasn't, well.. jewish. Still, not to worry, I'm an Englishman and it actually doesn't matter much that loony tunes foreigners get up to on their own patch as long as we've got Trident and are willing to use it.
Bacon sandwich anyone?
ps: you can have bliar if we don't get him first.
"peter hitchins" obviously, you have not checked out my flickr photo link. Living alone, and being without family and friends are two seperate things. Ho, ho,ho! Merry Xmas, nonce!
What's this about 'Peter Hitchins' being a paedophile ?
Im no nonce (+:
But you did smash in the head of a little old lady with an axe didnt you (+:
And you dont give a fuck (two of them)do you ?
And we all Know that.
Go fuck yourself on £55 a week (+:
"peter hitchins" victimless crime, my arse! You've been outed, ex Rule 43!
God's teeth!
Bongo, the singing Irish troll from the popular beat combo YouToo, is to get a K, the beeb tell me.
I would rather a battalion of luvvie knobhead Blairites be raised to the knightage than this echo chamber for teenage idealists.
So which nick was Hitchins in? Lets have some details
Arise Sir Bonio you pompous, tax dodging, money grabbin, tight assed ,feckin hypocrite
jailhouselawyer said...
"peter hitchins" victimless crime, my arse! You've been outed, ex Rule 43!
You dont rile me you pathetic little man (+:
Unlike you I am not the kind of person who harms innocents.
Also unlike yourself, I am not a man who is who is on licensed parole from a life sentence for axing an elderly lady to death, nor can I be recalled and held in prison indefinitely should I become a threat to law abiding members of the public.
You have just criminally libelled me by calling me a peadophile (which I am not).
John I am scared of you, you are a convicted killer who seems to have become obsessed with me, I would even say fixated.
If you carry on in this way I will have to report you to the police.
How much was it? Surely Mr Blair isn't that desperate.
BTW Hirst
I have neer been in prison (+:
Peter, (ref 1115) the same thought had crossed my mind: I find this campaign he is waging against you (and sometimes others) to be unnerving and dangerous.
When he first accused you I checked for the existence of the initial "anonymous" reference he claimed. Personally I would say its looks like his phrasing. I believe Guido should be asked to retain his server IP records for the last week to provide conclusive evidence of the poster's id. If you do not have his personal email address then there are others that do.
Furthermore, I believe Ian Dale is to meet him shortly for 18DoughtyStreet. In my view it is only fair that Ian be forwarned. My impression of Hirst is that he has never come to terms with his personal responsibility for his lethal criminal actions. If a member of the public should say the "wrong" thing in his presence - well, the results could be catastrophic.. again.
If I, and I suspect many others on this blog, can be of further assistance then please ask .
I don't blame you, have a great Xmas with your family, it was good fun meeting you and the other bloggers last week.
I think there is no smoke with out fire. Shouldn't peter hitchins copy and paste his charge sheet if he is as innocent as he claims?
if "peter hitchens" is innocent surely he wouldnt have a
"charge sheet"
You thick cunt (+:
may Israel within her pre-1967 borders enjoy the peace and security that we all wish for ourselves.
What utter rubbish. Israel will never go back to the pre-1967 borders, because
1. Under "Resolution 242" it doesn't have to.
2. "Secure" borders - just 10 miles from the Med - yeah right
There'll will be peace in the Middle East when Islam finally accepts other religions in the region (including Christianity - see Melanie Phillips site) and the only democracy in the Middle East - Israel which has been in a state of war since 1948. (Mainly due to British Foreign Policy in the previous 40 years)
Noticeable that most of the anti - Israel comments are made by "Anonymous" - apart from Peter Hitchens!
Build the wall higher!!
Mr Jacobs
The sight of a dead Israeli child is as horrific to me as the sight of a dead "Palestinian" child, walls are not the solution.
Pax.
Jailhouse, in all sincerty at Christmas I hope you are praying hard for the woman you slaughtered, praying for her family, trying to obtain true repentance, and thinking as to how to amend your life, which in your case must obviously be a life-long project.
You must see the true evil of what you did so you can crawl away from hell. There is hope for everybody while they still draw breath. Not if you minimize what you did.
And on that story of hope I wish you all a very happy Christmas, and may Israel within her pre-1967 borders enjoy the peace and security that we all wish for ourselves.
If only the Turks would withdraw to their pre-1070 borders Europe could live in peace, tranquillity and security and regain the Hagia Sophia..............maybe Russia could withdraw to its 1920 borders.
Redrawing borders is such fun - maybe India could resume its 1946 borders before the British moved them ?
This game of moving lines on maps is such fun -
Enjoyed that Voyager . I am on the other hand slightly concerned about returning this country to the Celts on the basis that they have found an old book that says it is theirs ...( could live with an America observing the pre 1492 boundaries though)
Dear Mr Jacobs -- not all of us objecting to the wall are anonymous. The imposition of Israel on land which it was not in Britain's (or any other country's) to give away is at the root of most of the misery and chaos the region has experienced. It has fuelled the rise of radical Islam, which saw Israel as a colonial imposition on land as sacred to Islam as it is to Judaism. You try having your land taken away by a third party, and a state imposed on you by force, and see how open hearted you'd be about the individuals settling on your land. The situation with Gaza (alluded to in my posting above) is particularly dire.
What has been left after all of this time is an almight mess but is not beyond the efforts of sincere men and women -- politicians and people -- to seek resolution. Most of us want peace; most of us want to be able to iive without that horrible wall, and all it represents. It is a shame on Israel, a shame on Israel's friends, and a shame on the international community.
Past form suggests that Guido won't give a flying fuck who called who a paedo. Mind you, things may be different if the target of the slur is a fellow Tory. Let's see...
I hope someone gives the tosser proclaiming to be peter hitchins a screwdriver for a Christmas present so that he can fix his loose screw.
Oh what fun!
Brownites have leaked a secret Downing Street memo to discredit "Blair's legacy":
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2517940,00.html
Now let's see what Mandy and Ali do in response. Watch your back Gordie! ;-)
"The Brothers" are fighting like two ferrets in a sack again.
"peter hitchins" 11.15: As you don't exist you cannot be libelled, which is civil and not criminal. Go ahead punk, make my day. I take it you will not be buying my book when it comes out, nor going to see the film of my life story? If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen. You are the weakest link, goodbye!
Let joy be unconfined.
The UK's elections watchdog is to decide whether Labour has broken the law over cash for honours, and will advise police on whether a case should go to court.
The Electoral Commission will play a crucial role in the Scotland Yard inquiry and advise if there is enough evidence to prosecute Labour. Any file would then be presented to the Crown Prosecution Service.
Amid panic in Downing Street, police are understood to have widened their inquiry and to be examining several aspects of the Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Act (PPERA) which the party is believed to have flouted. Sources close to the inquiry believe the case for a prosecution is getting stronger.
The Independent on Sunday has learnt that police are "taking very seriously" evidence that several parts of the Act may have been breached.
Independent, 24 Dec 2006. (My emboldening.)
Dear Mr Jacobs
For the not-anonymous record, I am anti-Israel and anti-Zionist without being anti-Jew. (In "Zionist", I include the heartless and pea-brained fundie or Rapture-Ready Xians on both sides of the Atlantic.)
All the best
President Bush, beyond parody.
THE PRESIDENT: Good morning. As families across our Nation gather to celebrate Christmas, Laura and I send our best wishes for the holidays. We hope that your Christmas will be blessed with family and fellowship.
At this special time of year, we give thanks for Christ's message of love and hope. Christmas reminds us that we have a duty to others
... but only other rich, white people; not brown people, Muslims, people living in oil-rich countries, or poor people in New Orleans.
JHL nobody is going to buy your book, not only are you uninteresting, you are barely literate.
Your delusions of grandeur would laughable if they hadn't led to the slaughter of an innocent woman.
Our "conversation" is at an end.
Spend the rest of the day contemplating just how much you are despised.
Banality and bare-faced lies, in the US
Jimmy Carter's new book, Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid ... It's a good, strong read by the only American president approaching sainthood. Carter lists the outrageous treatment meted out to the Palestinians, the Israeli occupation, the dispossession of Palestinian land by Israel, the brutality visited upon this denuded, subject population, and what he calls "a system of apartheid, with two peoples occupying the same land but completely separated from each other, with Israelis totally dominant and suppressing violence by depriving Palestinians of their basic human rights".
why, I wonder, didn't The New York Times and the other gutless mainstream newspapers in the United States mention Israel's cosy relationship with that very racist apartheid regime in South Africa ... Didn't Israel have a wealthy diamond trade with sanctioned, racist South Africa? Didn't Israel have a fruitful and deep military relationship with that racist regime Independent, 23 Dec 2006.
JHL you are a deluded. What you are trying to appear to be and what you are has a credibility gap as wide as the Grand Canyon. And there for all to see. You may sell a few books, appear on 18 Doughty Street and in The Guardian but that does not change who you are - an unrepetent taker of an old lady's life. Go look in the mirror. You can run from your guilt, attempt to rationalise your act but until you acknowledge the inherent evil in what you did, you are trapped in a deceptful existence.
On behalf of decent people everywhere I'd like to wish President Bush a Happy Christmas and Iran in 2007.
Is Mandelson getting into bed with Cameron?
Portillo seems to think so in today's Sunday Times and, as he quite rightly points out, this could be a major coup for Dave as Mandy knows where all the bodies are buried particularly when it comes to Gordon's shenanigans.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,24392-2517634,00.html
I thought Guido "supported the IDF in their struggle against Islamofascism".
Ah well, you turn if you want to...
Why should we support either islamofascism or zionazism? They're just different sides of the same coin.
peter hitchins: I think they will. If you did buy it you might learn something. Not only am I interesting, I have been described as extraordinary. I am very literate, unlike yourself and some who blog and post comments. Actually, I will be spending the rest of the day preparing for Christmas Day lunch, except for tonight when I will be celebrating with friends and having a few drams. I will be signing off now until after New Year. Roger and out.
crackers: Indeed you are. Do you intend to register the new word you have invented "deceptful"? WYSIWYG if you don't like, tough shit. All that repent lark is religious crap, I am an atheist. It won't prevent me from enjoying Christmas even though I am a non believer, because it can still be party time.
You try having your land taken away by a third party, and a state imposed on you by force
Yes Poland and Germany have a justified grievance as did Hitler in 1938 when you consider what Versailles did to Germans across Europe; and the way Poland was treated at Yalta rewarding Russia for its invasion in 1939.
When will Vladivostok be returned to China ? Schleswig-Holstein to Denmark ? When will Saudi Arabia return Mecca to the Hashemites ?
I do hope we will reincorporate Zambia into Zimbabwe.........and perhaps Taian can be returned to Japan.
These actions should make the Thirty Years War subdued by comparison but reclaiming territory from the Russians would be a good role for the EU
JHL Thanks for pointing out the typo. You are making an arse of yourself by pointing out typos. But then you have no self awareness.
You may be an atheist but this is not a reason for not acknowledging the evil of your act. I suspect you are quite pleased that your killing of an old lady in cold blood has brought you some fame and validated your existence. This is what makes you a vile person. To get your vain little life at the expense of another. And then you come along expecting acceptance by trotting out your banal cliches. Look in the mirror and see yourself for what you are. Worthless self deceiving scumbag.
Merry christmas Crackers (+:
I wish you and your family peace and prosperity.
I thought this was supposed to be a political blog not a slanging match for axe-murderers, peadophiles and other assorted scumbags.
JHL 1.09 All that repent lark is religious crap, I am an atheist.
Since when did being an atheist mean being devoid of feelings of human decency? Crackers is right on the nail. You are quite enjoying the dubious celebrity your crime has given you.
anon@1.36: Guido was in a wtf mood when he left: rolled in a grenade, shut the door and sauntered off humming "Jerusalem".
Indigo @8.57, @9.17, @11.12, @11.17, @11.30, @11.40
Ok, you've mastered cut'n'paste.
Now for wit & gossip..
Mr H
Merry to you and yours and also to those who have read you posts, expeltives and all, in 06.
Reminder: Lots of water.
Yours
Crackers Dr (Ret)
anon 136
apologies to you and others re JHL post. But I just could not allow this unrepetent little cretin to infest this blog with his mendacious self serving advertisements for himself. I'll now shut up. Time to put the bins out. Merry Xmas.
What's this? Cameron teams up with Mandelson and no-one's interested.
Must be Xmas!
Cameron, backed up by Mandelson. Cracking!
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1978537,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=11
Blair's aides call in their own lawyers
Downing Street aides embroiled in the 'cash for honours' inquiry have hired their own lawyers in a sign that the police investigation is dividing Tony Blair's inner circle.
Have a cheeky xmas Guido!
Is appearing in the guido comments the cheapest form of self-publicity available these days? Oh well good luck to anyone that makes a living out of it.
Merry Xmas and thanks Guido for a super blog, here's to more fun and for you in 2007.
Hey look:
http://prisonersvoice.blogspot.com/
Good luck to Bob Marshall-Andrews MP in his efforts to have Blair locked up.
FROM MELANIE PHILLIPS SITE
December 21, 2006
The Church and Israel
Ruth Gledhill, the religion correspondent of the Times and a Christian, takes a characteristically decent, moral and courageous position in criticizing the appalling misrepresentation of the Church of England of the plight of Bethlehem’s Christians and the scapegoating of Israel for their situation by the Archbishop of Canterbury. Ruth also draws attention to another grotesque development in churches around the country, as a direct result of the hatred of Israel that has now been whipped up by the church through its campaign of lies and distortion about Israel and the Arabs:
But just before anyone thinks I’m making a fuss out of nothing, and putting an unnecessarily negative slant on what is, I agree, a mission undertaken in hope and faith, just look at a few of the things happening in the UK around this area. In St Ives, the well-know Live Crib event has been abandoned by the local Roman Catholic church. Instead, they have erected their own ‘wall’. This protest exemplifies the views of so many Christian communities outside Israel.
This is not just happening in CofE churches. A reader sent me this article from the Catholic Herald, followed by her own remarks:
‘…this year, instead of the spectacular [Christmas] tableau, visitors will be staring up at an imposing grey replica portion of the wall built by the Israeli government to keep Palestinian suicide bombers at bay. In place of the crib will be a grim 30ft by 6ft assemblage of painted polystyrene floor insulation materials. This will be flanked by protest banners and ’stark photographs’ to drive home how ‘desperate and ugly the situation is in the Holy Land’. The piece continued that Father Paul Maddison, the parish priest ‘wants to highlight the plight of the Palestinian people’ and a description followed of the ‘Israeli wall’ that ‘will eventually become a 400-mile-long barrier of concrete slabs and barbed wire fences separating Israel from the West Bank.’ Reportedly, “Fr Maddison believes it has ‘devastated’ the lives of ordinary Palestinians. ‘Friends and family are separated, earning a living becomes more and more difficult, access to health care is severely restricted all in the town of Bethlehem that we sing about at this time of the year’”. However he ‘added that he could understand Israel’s need for security but argued that it was wrong to build the wall on Palestinian land. ‘”Israel has the right to live within safe and secure borders…No one can dispute that.’” The ‘replica’ wall will be erected on 15 December and taken down on 27 December. An Israeli Embassy spokesman was quoted at the end of the report, saying the ‘wall’ was a ‘cheap stunt’, that ‘over half of the Israelis’ killed by terrorists in 2005 “were killed by terrorists who came from or through Bethlehem. Today the town is ruled by the terrorist Hamas government. The Security Fence, which is less than four per cent of the total wall, has meant a 93 per cent decrease in terrorist attacks.’
Thus the report was presented with an attempt at balance, but what disturbed me was that, reportedly, the announcement of the ‘replica’ barrier was ‘announced to ’spontaneous applause’” at Sunday Masses at the church in question. I think this is a political rather than a religious stance - many Catholics are left wingish - and seems to reflect the stance of groups like CND and Campaign Against the Arms Trade. I’ve dropped out of both because of their anti-Israel campaigns. There are some who like me respond to items in the Catholic press but we are not organized; perhaps it is time we were. A couple of years ago there was a letter in one of the papers on Jewish responsibility for the crucifixion; a couple of us trounced the person concerned with Church teachings, especially from Vatican II - it turned out he was a member of that part of the Church that broke away in protest at Vatican II, so I don’t think he was typical in terms of theological opinion, especially as the issue didn’t resurface. As I say, I believe the ‘barrier’ story is indicative of a political rather than religious stance, exacerbated by ignorance encouraged by our biased media; it seems this ‘left-right’ split also applies to Jewish opinion, from what I can gather from the Jewish papers? I started to read them when I was studying for a degree in Jewish Christian relations and confess to being baffled by the stances on Israel - however it does go to show what rubbish the ‘Jewish Conspiracy’ is - one would have expected a greater degree of unanimity for a decent conspiracy, after all.
Quite apart from the lies and distortions embodied by these displays, what also comes across is a distressing echo of the most ancient prejudice of all against the Jews. For the replacement of the traditional nativity by Israel’s security fence carries the unmistakeable message that the Palestinians are the modern version of the suffering Christ, being persecuted by the Jews. It’s the crucifixion libel all over again.
Other Christians, I am happy to say, are now standing up and saying to all this ‘not in my name’. Here for example, is a fine and robust response to Rowan Williams from Tony Pearce, pastor of The Bridge Christian Fellowship’
Dear Dr Williams,
I have read the article in ‘The Tablet’ in which you speak about people leaving Bethlehem in large numbers and then ask the question: ‘I would like to know how much it matters to the Israeli Government to have Christian communities in the Holy Land. Are they an embarrassment or are they part of a solution? That’s a question.’
No doubt the Israelis have already given you their answer, perhaps informing you that the Christian Arab population within the pre 1967 borders of Israel has grown from approximately 34,000 in 1948 to nearly 130,000 in 2005. Ironically this is the only part of the Middle East where the Christian population is growing.
You should really have asked the Palestinian Authority how much it matters to them that there are Christian communities in their territory. The main reason for the departure of Christians from PA administered territories is the religious persecution, murder and land grabs which stems from the increased Islamisation of the region. This is the result of the PA adopting Muslim religious law in the territories in contrast to Israel which safeguards the religious freedom on its citizens.
You have nothing to say about the likes of George Rabie, featured in a recent article in the Mail on Sunday who is a taxi driver from Bethlehem and was beaten up by Muslims using his cab when they discovered he is a Christian. He said ‘Every day, I experience discrimination. It is a type of racism. We are a minority so we are an easier target. Many extremists from the villages are coming into Bethlehem.’
Nor have you championed the cause of those who have been subjected to forced marriages of Christian women to Muslim men, received death threats for distributing the Bible to willing Muslims, or been intimidated into wearing traditional ultra-modest Islamic clothing. Nor have you written about the churches which have been firebombed by Muslim extremists protesting against the remarks of the Pope (most recently in Nablus, Tubas, and Gaza). Nor about the situation in which Christian Arabs have found their land expropriated by Muslims or been forced to pay bribes to win the freedom of family members jailed on trumped-up charges.
All of this is the main reason why Christian Arabs have been selling or abandoning homes and businesses, seeking to escape the chaos and corruption of the PA and move to Israel, Europe, South America, North America, or wherever they can get a visa.
Why do you have nothing to say about any of this in The Tablet or other public media? Of course you do not need to answer. We all know. No one in public life dares to make any comment even mildly critical of Islamic behaviour. On the other hand Israeli Jews are an easy target. In this way we in the west are already submitting to Islamic demands and behaving like ‘dhimmi’ citizens subject to the rule of the mosque. I find this utterly shameful and a betrayal of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Truth and decency do still live on in these darkest times.
What? Did something say something? Must sleep
Couldn't you have just posted the link, instead of the whole post?
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Panto Blair:
Where's my career boys and girls?
Panto audience:
IT'S BEHIND YOU!
good on the Israelis. When the hell are we goint to rebuild Hardian's Wall and send Brown, Blair, Reid and all those other scotch wankers back where they came from. And while were at it let's rebuild Offa's Dyke and banish that fat cunt Prescott back to whence he whelped.
That apart, merry Xmas to one and all.
lol
........and while we're at it......
How about pushing those Normans, Angles, Saxons and Jutes back where they came from and leave we true Brits to our trogloditic fun.
Must fly.........I've got to piss on my woad before it goes off...
P.S.....and no, we haven't forgotten about you Scandinavians either....
Wow, what a Christmas card this would be! I'm not political, but it points out the nas(z)tiness of superior powers over the innocents. I would order many hundreds, and I'm sure,if people like me feel the same way, we would send this peaceful, thought provoking message around the world. Email(u know wat im doing) gurnygub...@..gmail.com
Merry Christmas all, even the lefties and those of the politically correct persuasion...
but it points out the nas(z)tiness of superior powers over the innocents.
Yes it does doesn't it.........In Matthew 2, the wise men from the East asked Herod the Great where the King of the Jews was to be born. Herod was deeply disturbed, because he had earned the title, King of the Jews, from the Romans, and he was planning that one of his sons would inherit the title from him. Equally disturbing was the news that the child would be born in Bethlehem, the site of Herod's summer palace.
Herod the Great ordered the slaughter of all boys under the age of two years, and Joseph took Mary and Jesus to Egypt for safety. Joseph did not bring his family back to Nazareth until after Herod the Great's death in 4 b.c.
After the death of Herod the Great, the Romans divided his kingdom between his sons, and none of them was called King of the Jews...................Herod Archelaus ruled Judea after the death of his father. In Matthew 2: 22, Joseph decided to take his family north to Galilee, because he was also afraid of Archelaus. Archelaus ruled badly, and the Romans removed him after ten years, replacing him with a Roman.
His brother, Herod Antipas, was tetrarch of Galilee and Perea. In the New Testament, he is called Herod the Tetrarch. Another brother, Herod Philip, was tetrarch of Iturea, Gaulanitis, and Trachonitis. Their cousin, Herodias, first married and divorced an uncle living in Rome, then married Philip, and then divorced Philip to marry Antipas.
When John the Baptist preached against this marriage and divorce pattern within the family, Antipas had him thrown into prison. The daughter of Herodias by her first marriage is unnamed in the New Testament, but she is called Salome (a common name in the family) in later accounts. With her mother's prompting, she requested the head of John the Baptist on a platter, and Antipas ordered John beheaded (Mark 6).
Anything that Ruth Gledhill writes about the Holy Land MUST be seen in the context of her membership of so-called Christian Friends of Israel. (Tony B is one of them, too.) She has shown herself to be just as blind to Israeli government atrocities as any Zionist.
Sorry, Ruth, if you are looking in; but you have demonstrated this horrible betrayal of what Christ represents, on your blog.
By the way, Banksy's image here does not merely portray something out of his imagination: Bethlehem IS surrounded by the Israel government's wall of steel and concrete; the people who remain within it are living in poverty.
Maybe things would look up for everyone if Israel extended the wall to incorporate Bethlehem it into it's democracy.
That way, the Palestinian Christians would be safe from the Islamists and Christmas as we know and love it can continue in prosperity.
To all those anonymous idiots, 'Vlad the Impala' and Guido -- go and read www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com and rethink if you really want to defend the Islamic Nazis and their propaganda.
The people you're defending are supremacists, not 'downtrodden' freedom fighters. They will fight for their supremacist ideology down to the last Palestinian child, they keep them in poverty deliberately, and groom them to commit suicide. Gaza is awash with expensive weapons, but curiously devoid of food. No prizes for working out how that has happened.
Btw, Mary and Joseph were Jewish. They would not last 5 minutes without the protection of the IDF and the wall there...
Anything that Ruth Gledhill writes about the Holy Land MUST be seen in the context of her membership of so-called Christian Friends of Israel.
Why so-called ? Were you refused membership ?
Indigo really makes me sick. She says she's Anti-Zionist, anti-Israel but not anti-Jewish. That's a bit like a Muslim being anti-British, anti-Western but not anti-Christian or Catholic. Great philosophy Indigo. NOT.
Loved this piece in the Daily Mail, entitled "Oh Muslim town of Bethlehem"
All is quiet in Bethlehem. On Manger Square, the Church of the Nativity stands in the pale gloom of dusk, its doors open to passing pilgrims.
But inside, the nave is empty of visitors and the collection boxes depleted of coins.
In the candlelit grotto downstairs, a silver star marks the spot where Jesus is supposed to have been born.
It is one of the most sacred sites in Christendom, but there are no tourists queuing to see it.
Just 500 yards down the road, Joseph Canawati is not looking forward to Christmas.
The expansive lobby of his 77-room Hotel Alexander is empty and he says: "There is no hope for the future of the Christian community.
"We don't think things are going to get better. For us, it is finished."
Life for Palestinian Christians such as 50-year-old Joseph has become increasingly difficult in Bethlehem - and many of them are leaving.
The town's Christian population has dwindled from more than 85 per cent in 1948 to 12 per cent of its 60,000 inhabitants in 2006.
There are reports of religious persecution, in the form of murders, beatings and land grabs.
Meanwhile, the breakdown in security is putting off tourists, leading to economic hardship for Christians, who own most of the town's hotels, restaurants and souvenir shops.
The situation has become so desperate that the Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr Rowan Williams, and Cardinal Cormac Murphy O'Connor, the head of the Roman Catholic Church in England and Wales, are to lead a joint delegation to Bethlehem this week to express their solidarity with the beleaguered Christian populace.
The town, according to the Cardinal, is being "steadily strangled".
The sense of a creeping Islamic fundamentalism is all around in Bethlehem.
A mosque on one side of Manger Square stands directly opposite the Greek Orthodox and Roman Catholic churches, while in the evening the muezzin's call to prayer clashes with the peal of church bells.
Shops selling Santa Claus outfits and mother-of-pearl statuettes of the Virgin Mary have their shutters painted a sun-bleached green, the colour of Islam.
And in the Al-Jacir Palace, Bethlehem's only luxury hotel, there is a baubled Christmas tree in reception and a card showing the direction of Mecca in the rooms.
George Rabie, a 22-year-old taxi driver from the Bethlehem suburb of Beit Jala, is proud of his Christianity, even though it puts him in daily danger.
Two months ago, he was beaten up by a gang of Muslims who were visiting Bethlehem from nearby Hebron and who had spotted the crucifix hanging on his windscreen.
"Every day, I experience discrimination," he says. "
"It is a type of racism. We are a minority so we are an easier target. Many extremists from the villages are coming into Bethlehem."
Jeriez Moussa Amaro, a 27-year-old aluminium craftsman from Beit Jala is another with first-hand experience of the appalling violence that Christians face.
Five years ago, his two sisters, Rada, 24, and Dunya, 18, were shot dead by Muslim gunmen in their own home.
Their crime was to be young, attractive Christian women who wore Western clothes and no veil. Rada had been sleeping with a Muslim man in the months before her death.
A terrorist organisation, the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, issued a statement claiming responsibility, which said: "We wanted to clean the Palestinian house of prostitutes."
Jeriez says: "A Christian man is weak compared to a Muslim man.
"They have bigger, more powerful families and they know people high up in the Palestinian authority."
The fear of attack has prompted many Christian families to emigrate, including Mr Canawati's sister, her husband and their three children who now live in New Jersey in America.
"I want to leave but nobody will buy my business," Mr Canawati says. "I feel trapped. We are isolated."
This isolation was heightened when, last year, Bethlehem found itself behind Israel's security wall, a 400-mile-long concrete barrier which separates Jewish and Palestinian areas and is designed to stop suicide bombers - in 2004, half the Israeli fatalities caused by such attacks were committed by extremists from Bethlehem.
Last year, tourists trying to get to the town were forced to queue for hours as their papers were checked, while Bethlehem inhabitants going the other way must now apply for an infrequently granted permit to visit Jerusalem, barely ten minutes away by car.
"It is like living in a prison," says Shadt Abu-Ayash, a 29-year-old Roman Catholic shopkeeper.
The Roman Catholic Mayor of Bethlehem, Dr Victor Batarseh, says: "The political situation in Lebanon and the instability of politics in Palestine has affected tourism and pilgrimage.
"Hotels, restaurants and souvenir shops are owned by mostly Christians so it affects them badly.
"We have 65 per cent unemployment and about 2,000 bedrooms in hotels that are empty."
Bethlehem's hotel owners estimate that tourist numbers have dropped sharply, from 91,276 each month for the millennium celebrations in 2000 to little more than 1,500 a month now.
During the past six years, 50 restaurants, 28 hotels and 240 souvenir shops have closed.
Samir Qumsieh is general manager of Al-Mahed - Nativity - which is the only Christian television station in Bethlehem.
He has had death threats and visits from armed men demanding three acres of his land - and he is now ready to leave.
"As Christians, we have no future here," he says.
"We are melting away. Next summer I will leave this country to go to the States. How can I continue?
"I would rather have a beautiful dream in my head about what my home is like, not the nightmare of the reality."
I wonder what the Archbishop of Canterbury will say when the Christians are finally driven out of the West Bank, sorry Judea.
The only place Christians can feel safe in the Middle east is, of course, Israel.
Stop trying to equate anti-zionism and anti-Israel with anti-semitism, Jacobs, you little turd.
A non-zionist Jew.
Mr Jacobs, I am anti-Zionist and anti the government of Israel; I am not anti-Jew. Not my fault if that is too sophisticated for your room-temperature IQ.
Jacobs, Loved this piece in the Daily Mail, entitled "Oh Muslim town of Bethlehem"
Oh, yes, the Daily Mail is about your level.
Voyager Why so-called [Christian Friends of Israel]? Were you refused membership ?
You are not paying attention, are you? Why would I want to be a Friend of Israel? I am a friend of Palestine.
WTF !!!
Absentmindedly visited this site when I should be looking for festive porn and find it's been taken over by the Comment is Free mob from the Grauniad. Does Guido know you're doing this on his turf? He won't be amused. This is about as witty & amusing as the BBC1 Christmas Day schedule. FFS more smut, more swearing (where's Phitch when we need him?) Who gives a toss about the ragheads? Or the kikes? The only thing that interests them is the size of our cheques. Come on you lot - sing some carols , pull some crackers (OK for those with wives or significant others fantasise) get pissed, have a row with the mother-in-law, swear at the kids. It's Christmas. It's traditional.
I don't know where to start with cinnamon's brain-washed condition so I won't waste time trying.
The IDF of 0 BC were the Roman occupiers. Nowadays, Mary and Joseph would face 15 checkpoints. Times, 23 December a year ago; but nothing has changed, unless there are even more checkpoints.
Let us not forget, too, that Islam reveres Jesus as an important prophet who, according to some sources, will return to earth in the company of the Mahdi to redeem believers.
Well spoken that man in the silly red hat.
Ho!Ho!Ho!Ho!Ho!
(as they say in Ipswich these days)
Fuck off you boring bastards, I just popped in for a bit of politician slagging ho-ho-ho! And what is there, all you wankers with loads of religious baggage. Guido will sort you lot, mark my words!
This picture makes no sense. Why should the nice looking Jewish couple want to cross into splodydope land anyway?
Anat,
We can tell one thing from the picture. The middle eastern gentleman is leading the woman on the donkey so he doesn't expect there to be any mines.
anon@9.33
give that man another drink!
the picture is political and ignores the images of civilian buses bombed by islamic terrorists.
Perhaps a cartoon depicting the blocked gate of the Temple Mount, walled up after Saladin's conquest of Jerusalem in 1187 - to prevent the Messiah riding through.
That of course wouldnt fit the propaganda. Would it?
Its like playing wack-a-mole round here:
mong@10.08 - FUCK OFF!
incisive wit @10.47
10.08 must have a point...
on that logic @10.08/11.16, you must have a brain, but where's the proof? Tosser.
Anonymous said... 11.16
Is your real name Tosser? Bad luck, getting sucked into a failed advertising campaign.
mong@1149: Circumcise your head by mistake did they?
Ah yes, probably should have posted this link
http://www.onan.com/onan/;jsessionid=QIAZDXCWDRVCGCTFJMXSDSQ?_requestid=84925
I still don't like that word "Tosser".
12.12 You poor dear. Go and sleep in the corner til its all over.
Don't know how long this'll last but goto http://www.france24.com which for those who havn't heard is a new internetTV news channel, select for the English front page in the header bar and then click on the "French in Afghanistan" story bottom left.
Already gone...need to use the google cache
http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:M9puC_A-KuwJ:www.france24.com/france24Public/en/news/world/20061215-French-Afghanistan+%22//www.france24.com/france24Public/en/news/world/20061215-French-Afghanistan%22&hl=en&gl=uk&ct=clnk&cd=1
but its just a bunch of frogs playing soldiers.
Since the mong @ 11.51 used the word:
A tourist couple are wandering thru the back-streets of Jerusalem when they chance upon a shop window containing a display of fine clocks. |The husband is particularly taken by one of them so they enter the shop to enquire the price. The shopkeeper regrets that the clock is not for sale and further more that none of the clocks are for sale. The tourist asks the shopkeeper why, as a clockmaker, he doesn't want to sell any of his clocks.
"Ah" says the shopkeeper "I see your mistake. I'm not a clockmaker. I'm a mohel."
"Whats a mohel?" he's asked.
"I'm the man who performs the circumcisions."
"So why do you have clocks in your window?" asks the tourist.
"Well, what should I have in my window?" is the reply.
Anon 12.59
shame, cos "ERROR _ No such page exists on this site." Looked so much more appropriate.
Oh and Mlle Grenouille looking over my shoulder reckons we're both a word I don't know how to spell.
We, who are whole&entire , give Thanks to Gawd for Jesus that we should be so spared.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohel
Amen
THE "HITCHES" CHRISTMAS MESSAGE
Fuck me what a bunch of boring cunts!
Fuck the palestinians and fuck the Yids!
I say let the cunts kill each other and keep the rest of us out of it, fucking bacon avoiding wankers the lot of them!
why the fuck anybody wants to live, let alone fight, to live in that hot, fly blown waterless shithole is fucking beyond me.
Jews, come back to Europe where you belong, help us sort out our rag head problem and leave the fuckers to carry on riding about on donkeys and kissing the ground five times a day praying To Allah for mercy, the fucking workshy cunts!
Have wales, its mainly fucking empty, the cunts that live there are mostly subnormal and therefore easily dealt with and it has access to the sea, you could make it the most successful country in Europe (do I live in europe? I've forgotten)
Cunts!
Ah! PH, glad u surfaced. Thought I was batting alone here. Hope xmas telly was ok. Sorry to hear the piles are playing up.
Sorry to hear about Stanislav Peter! I've got some spare tubes of stuff for the other problem too!
Just bang on the door and come in!
Let us not forget, too, that Islam reveres Jesus as an important prophet
Yes - I hear Dan Brown wrote him into his fictional works too...........Mohammedanism tries to elevate an illiterate Arabian Jesse James over the resurrected Son Of God................nice try but not for thinking people
Pedro Hitchens, if they only hit each other I'd be all for your suggestion, but alas, the yids did manage to bomb the shit out of the Christian areas of Lebanon as well. Mi problemo es su problemo.
But the real question is, of course, what does Bono say?
Wot is goin down heah, man? Where is Winston de Champ when we need him?
Jew hatred is a funny thing. Where does it come from? Its almost as if it comes through the ether.
It is not new and is predicted as is the diaspora and return to Israel.
The Jew haters are simply acting on satan's behalf. They are here to test you. But better to be cursed by satan than cursed by God.
I’m afraid that I really doubt that Jew-haters act on Satan's behalf, unless you truly believe that humanity is just a long test of faith between good and evil in which case I am sure you can win the National Lottery since it would be down to fate and not probability. Hatred of Jews comes, like most forms of hatred, from fear, envy and ignorance with a few unpleasant self-interest groups thrown in to stir things up nicely for their own profit.
What I have found intriguing from the above comments is the contempt that some people have for what I presume is their own religion. It seems to be exactly that behaviour that the Islamic fundamentalists and, to a lesser extent, the Israelis point to when they justify their actions of brutality - that the weak imbeciles in the West won't intervene over Bethlehem or Nazareth anyway since they are contemptuous of their own religion. All we do to protect Christians caught between a rock (Israel) and a hard place (Palestinian territories) is to wring our hands saying, "oh this is dreadful, especially on Christmas Day" and then send probably the 2 most ineffectual men we have (Archbishops of Westminster and Canterbury) to try and mediate with fundamentalist organisations like Hamas or with states on a clear war footing like Israel. Murphy-O’Connor (Arch. Westminster) actually did do the hand-wringing bit this holiday, pleading for Palestinian Christians to stay in Bethlehem, despite the knowledge that the local Islamic fundamentalists now regard resident Christians as 'legitimate' target practice.
As much as I truly hate to admit this, Saddam Hussein did do more to protect Christians in his country (bear in mind his Foreign Minister was a Christian) that we appear to be doing to protect Christians in our most holy of holy places – the birthplace of our Christ.
What a crying shame.
anonymous 9.43am: "Jew hatred is a funny thing. Where does it come from?"
"Jew hatred" as you call it, is obnoxious as is hatred of any fellow humans based on their ethnicity or religion.
Don't confuse "Jew hatred" with hatred of a government (Israel) that operates a system of occupation and apartheid
This hatred is not "a funny thing" - it is logically and morally justified and is a wonderful thing.
Anon@9.43
Pathetic Thetans, its nothing to do with Satan but everything to do with the evil emperor Xenu!! You would have seen more of his handiwork in other events, such as 9/11, if it wasnt for the fact his brainwashed followers were unable to find any space travelling DC8s and had to make do with 737s (which probably couldnt travel in space). Anyway dont you see? my made up sky-gods are better than yours
Anyway now you know, please send me all your money and prepare for a purity examination in the form of having a citrus fruit shoved up your ar$e
mr travolta,
Is it true that you "bat for the other side"?
like tom cruise you are
"a mans man" ?
I am a big fan (very big)
@12.20
Dear John,
I have seen the light!
But there are so many many questions. You must guide me!
Which way must I orient my pc during worship? Is Xenu(pbuh) nice to talk to? Has He written a book? Can He fly?
Obediently Yours
M Atta
ps do you take paypal?
I guess I shouldn't be surprised that those sad bastards that don't even have a name, have nothing to do, what with Comment is Free not being updated over Christmas.
Get yourself a name, a life and maybe even an argument or two.
I know its difficult for thick lefties to comprehend, but the wall wouldn't exist if the Palestinian National Sport wasn't suicide bombing.
Verity 12:15
Since the fact of the matter is that Israel operates neither occupation nor apartheid, you may ask yourself who propagated this lie and why.
BTW, as to apartheid, where are the Jews of Iraq, Syria, Morocco, Egypt and those areas of Palestine occupied by the Jordanians in 1949? Altogether over a million people? Ever thought why they had to leave and where they went?
Lets face it , these Jew bastards have it coming to them , they have stolen a country and persecuted that countrys rightful inhabitants.
They get no sympathy from me.
they have stolen a country.
I can see your time in jail did not encourage you to reflect. There was NO country prior to Israel being reformed in 1948 in contrast to India which was subdivided in the Independence of India Act 1947 to form Pakistan, which is to all intents and purposes an illegitimate Muslim state on Indian sovereign territory.
Do you also want to return the Bekaa Valley to Syria - the French moved it from Syria into Lebanon ?
Do you wish to destroy the state of Jordan ? Clearly those so busy attacking Israel are prepared to destroy Jordan too.............mind you the Hashemites should have the Hejaz returned and the House of Saud evicted from Mecca.
It is probably time for the Kurds to have their slices of Iran and Turkey and Syria, and the Turks to withdraw back to Central Asia.
But anyone writing such nonsensical drivel as they have stolen a country should be sent for a course in remedial education to learn some history
Voyager 4:47
You are right, of course. But for those guardianista Syrians and Jordanians are one thing and Jews are a completely different thing. They are not antisemitic, you know, they just apply different rules to Jews.
JHL
"They get no sympathy from me..."
Neither did the old lady that you murdered. Get back under your rock you vermin.
I see that the decrepid old Michael Meacher fancies his chances at taking on Brown.(according to the Sunday Mirro) .what a self-delusional loser (Meacher that is!)still, he's got to be better than McDonnell - just!
Everybody, don't worry about this wall, I'll just go there and bring it down through the power of my music - just like in Berlin in 89.
Love n'peace
The Hoff
Note: David Hasselhoff will not be appearing in Panto this year. He is however considering a position in the LibDems as offering the best 'life fit' for him.
The Wall,is the wall built to keep at bay all the --- woofters,Lesbians,Transexuals and Homosexuals who are have and are still taking over the Conservative Party.
In Conservative Home last week there was a clear exponification of the Torygraph or the Torygaygraph,whichever way you feel,as well, as the tentacles or testacles of the gay community taking over the party.
One old lad claimed if he met one he would kick them in the you know what.
Talking on the subject the question of chemical castration cropped up by the gay power brokers of the Blair brigade.
So...Jews are the bullies of Christians in Bethlehem and 'Palestine'? Are you gents on crack?:
George Rabie, a 22-year-old taxi driver from the Bethlehem suburb of Beit Jala, is proud of his Christianity, even though it puts him in daily danger.
Two months ago, he was beaten up by a gang of Muslims who were visiting Bethlehem from nearby Hebron and who had spotted the crucifix hanging on his windscreen.
"Every day, I experience discrimination," he says. "
"It is a type of racism. We are a minority so we are an easier target. Many extremists from the villages are coming into Bethlehem."
Jeriez Moussa Amaro, a 27-year-old aluminium craftsman from Beit Jala is another with first-hand experience of the appalling violence that Christians face.
Five years ago, his two sisters, Rada, 24, and Dunya, 18, were shot dead by Muslim gunmen in their own home.
Their crime was to be young, attractive Christian women who wore Western clothes and no veil. Rada had been sleeping with a Muslim man in the months before her death.
A terrorist organisation, the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, issued a statement claiming responsibility, which said: "We wanted to clean the Palestinian house of prostitutes."
Jeriez says: "A Christian man is weak compared to a Muslim man.
The fear of attack has prompted many Christian families to emigrate, including Mr Canawati's sister, her husband and their three children who now live in New Jersey in America.
URL: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=423126&in_page_id=1770
Anonymous 7.53 pm - you lose the argument when the source you quote is "The Daily Mail".
Anonymous 7.53 pm - you lose the argument when the source you quote is "The Daily Mail".
That's so weak.
So according to your world view, Christians are treated well by Islamists? RIGHT. I suppose you are one of those stupid enough to think that Bethlehem's remaining Christians are better off under a Hamas and/or Fatah regime than under Israeli contol?
Way to go...
There would not even be a fence if the Arab's had accepted the 1948 UN partition of Palestine instead of trying for a genocidal victory against the Jews (and also if they taught their youth something other than suicide bombing 101).
Just think,3 blokes on camels,a few shepherds,bunch of animals,happy couple and a new-born baby in a stable would constitute a terrorist cell in Palestine and the good folk of the IDF would launch one of their heroic Apache Helicopter rocket attack.Is it anti-semitic to say the State of Israel is a fucking abomination?
Anonymous 7:53 said:
Jeriez Moussa Amaro, a 27-year-old aluminium craftsman from Beit Jala is another with first-hand experience of the appalling violence that Christians face.
Fuck all to do with him being a Christian,more the purge by Hamas on aluminium craftsmen,the untold and hidden undercurrent of the middle-eastern conflict.Ever wish you`d stuck to Zinc Jeriez?
Nice picture Guido,maybe you`re not such a wanker after all.Only joking obviously.
If Jesus saw Bethlehem today, the first thing he would wonder is what Arabs and Muslims are -- they invaded and stole the land from its Christian inhabitants by military force in the seventh century A.D. -- and he would be deeply confused as to why they are are occupying his ancient Judeo-Christian homeland.
P.S. To the Islamists, Israel is the appetizer. The main course is the West.
Guido, could you pull another sex scandal out of your hat (or wherever it is you get them...your voicemail?). This is getting old.
On the other hand, the magic of Christmas is truly manifest on Earth, as it appears that Verity and I are in perfect agreement on something. I think I just lost a bet.
Raincoaster ( "... it appears that Verity and I are in perfect agreement ... I think I just lost a bet.")
Have we met?
We could do with a rant about Blair running out of runway fast...or maybe just freeloading again...
Pah! The idle rich. Come on Guido get out of yer pit! Blair is collecting more favours from another aged pop-star. Cliff wanted copyright extended, what does Gibb want?