Not only does he feel entitled to spend £40,000 of British taxpayers' money on self promotion (surely this is illegal?), but he looks slightly mad. He looks like someone in those '60s/'70s movies who has sighted a space ship and knows instinctively that the passengers have come to earth to do good, and welcomes them. He sees the future, and it is not earth!
- Anonymousette
June 22, 2006 at 1:48 AM
Anonymous
said...
If only the Conservatives DID support withdrawal!
They would pick up bloody shedloads of votes.
Milliband and the rest offer a red-herring in their portrayal as anything other than a Federalist attitude as bonkers.
I wish the Tories would be openly anti EU (ie, pro-democracy).
June 22, 2006 at 2:30 AM
Anonymous
said...
Rog - Agreed. No thinking person who can read the stats wants to be in this toxic pond.
- Anonymousette
June 22, 2006 at 2:36 AM
Anonymous
said...
If our democratic laws once again took precdence over the laws of the Eurocracy, it would be a day to rank with the greatest in the history of liberty. At last, the world's oldest Parliamentary democracy will have become a Parliamentary democracy again. It would NOT necessarily imply leaving the EU - the German Constitutional Court has ruled that the German Basic Law has primacy over EU law, as has the French Constitutional Court with their country's law. It's only because British judges have been supine that we've lost our democracy.
A free trade area can survive without all the supra-national garbage that the EU has inflicted on us - look at NAFTA. That's all Britain (or England anyway) has ever wanted from Brussels.
June 22, 2006 at 7:47 AM
Anonymous
said...
Shouldn't young Millipede be busying himself with such family traditions as collectivising farms, rather than straying into the territory of poor old Pay-Cut Hoon, The Doormat for Europe?
"What are they going to do, throw the third biggest economy out of the EU because we won't regulate the bends in bananas to EU standards? " Yep, read the treaty. No compliance = no membership. You can get away with doing it on the sly (many do), but open defiance would mean a succession of court cases, probably many of them brought by big British commercial interests.
The funny thing, of course, is that Clause 174 of the Finance (No 2) Bill does exactly the same.
But only for tax collection issues.
June 22, 2006 at 9:39 AM
Anonymous
said...
Addressing the first comment: as someone who has seen more than his share of alien activity - and the horrors at Hobbs End Tube - simply put, IT'S A COOKBOOK!!!!!
Although I'm inviting anti-EU invective, I'd like to point out that members of a free-trade zone do have a vested interest in common standards, shared specifications and agreed quality baselines.
June 22, 2006 at 9:48 AM
Anonymous
said...
Placing us in breach of those treaties would mean us leaving the EU. If EU law was unenforceable over such a large part of the community it would totally shatter the entire basis of the common market.
June 22, 2006 at 10:03 AM
Anonymous
said...
Yaay! Go for it!
June 22, 2006 at 10:59 AM
Anonymous
said...
I take all Dave's comments with a large pinch of (naughty) salt - what came first the dumbass comments or the salt?
June 22, 2006 at 11:48 AM
Anonymous
said...
Go tell it to the marines, Guido. That's the only audience that will listen to you tories.
For you, our performance outside of the Eurozone is applauded only by jealous Italians.
What say the manufacturers who contend with the highest intrest rates in the world?
They want our free floating pound to save their skin and we want their intrest rates.
Compromise? Credible Government with the same rules.
our performance outside of the Eurozone is applauded only by jealous Italians.
No-one else even the slightest bit upset with the euro? Are you sure?
What say the manufacturers who contend with the highest intrest rates in the world?
You mean in Zimbabwe?
Compromise? Credible Government with the same rules.That means Euro+constitution.
Compromise is for those that believe in nothing and credible government is a concept that is in direct contrast with the mess that is the EU. As for the same rules? Yes you want the Euro + Constitution, but why would anyone want the same rules? They'd have to be a bossy socialist.
June 22, 2006 at 2:16 PM
Anonymous
said...
Allianz just laid off half its staff in Frankfurt and has formed a new European Company - EIC or whatever so it can migrate from Germany
June 22, 2006 at 3:28 PM
Anonymous
said...
Maybe Miliband can explain why 250.000 Germans are emigrating each year - the highest level since 1949.
About the same number of Britons are escaping.
Sounds like the EU is sizzling along exporting the educated and importing the peasantry
June 22, 2006 at 3:30 PM
Anonymous
said...
Zimbabwe, a near death camp of an economy and you anti loons compare the British Empire with such an example.Is there no depth that you think sufficient for your party?
Manufacturers are not coping with this booming economy. The £ is too strong, therefore the Euro is too weak. Simple remedy dictates that we adopt the Euro for they will not adopt the £ with Hague in the background. Thatcher disagrees with the rest of your negative viewpoint. Hence your position in the world of politics.
June 22, 2006 at 3:43 PM
Anonymous
said...
can we nominate davey boy for press plagurist of the year now then?
June 22, 2006 at 4:39 PM
Anonymous
said...
"Go tell it to the marines, Guido. That's the only audience that will listen to you tories."
All the marines I've known have been intelligent and direct with no bullshit about them. If they listen to us, we're probably talking a lot of sense.
I'd rather have them as an auidence than all the Guardian, Independent and Mirror readers combined.
It wasn't our supine judges, as suggested above, who have condemned us to EU Serfdom it was, and still is, a Civil Service that has insisted on not only enshrining just about all EU legislation into British law but also "gold plating" it (their own phrase) to make it completely watertight.
Unless and until we get a Government that stops this total abuse of the democratic process and our citizens, i.e. a Government that actually wishes to Govern as opposed to becoming a "delivery mechanism" for a Federal European superstate, then we are and will remain powerless in the face of the rise of the unelected technocrats who really govern us in the 21st Century.
Zimbabwe, a near death camp of an economy and you anti loons compare the British Empire with such an example.
You are either thick or deliberately ignoring things. You were the one who claimed that Britain had the world's highest interest rates. I simply pointed out, in a round about way, that such a statement was obviously false.
The £ is too strong, therefore the Euro is too weak. Simple remedy dictates that we adopt the Euro for they will not adopt the £ with Hague in the background.
No chance to devalue the pound in some way? Wouldn't joining the Euro at an inflated exchange rate simply screw us permanently?
Thatcher disagrees with the rest of your negative viewpoint. Hence your position in the world of politics.
You asked her specifically I suppose? As a Thatcherite, am I bound to follow her lead on everything? I had no idea I was a member of a cult.
June 23, 2006 at 7:49 AM
Anonymous
said...
'A free trade area like NAFTA can survive'
Two points.
Why have 'N' in the title? Why not open it up down south?
The so-called free trade area bullies British business with impunity. Bush has no problems at all in using protectionism to ease worries at home. What do you want little britain to do, cry?
Great Britain inside Europe informed George where the buck stops. The might of the EU works very much in our favour. You Torie will soon see where and who British business supports. Be warned you little Englander numpties.
So eu-serf wants to devalue sterling, does he? Be my guest, but first pass it by the Tory supporters club in their offshore paradise counting houses. Can't wait for the reply.
Rates at the wrong value would certainly screw us but I have every faith in our patience.
eu-serf, I am sorry if somehow I mistakely compared you to Thatcher (a great european). You are a numptie on the numptie side of Tory dreamland, where numpties play to their hearts content without any responsibility at all. Enjoy.
23 comments:
Not only does he feel entitled to spend £40,000 of British taxpayers' money on self promotion (surely this is illegal?), but he looks slightly mad. He looks like someone in those '60s/'70s movies who has sighted a space ship and knows instinctively that the passengers have come to earth to do good, and welcomes them. He sees the future, and it is not earth!
- Anonymousette
If only the Conservatives DID support withdrawal!
They would pick up bloody shedloads of votes.
Milliband and the rest offer a red-herring in their portrayal as anything other than a Federalist attitude as bonkers.
I wish the Tories would be openly anti EU (ie, pro-democracy).
Rog - Agreed. No thinking person who can read the stats wants to be in this toxic pond.
- Anonymousette
If our democratic laws once again took precdence over the laws of the Eurocracy, it would be a day to rank with the greatest in the history of liberty. At last, the world's oldest Parliamentary democracy will have become a Parliamentary democracy again. It would NOT necessarily imply leaving the EU - the German Constitutional Court has ruled that the German Basic Law has primacy over EU law, as has the French Constitutional Court with their country's law. It's only because British judges have been supine that we've lost our democracy.
A free trade area can survive without all the supra-national garbage that the EU has inflicted on us - look at NAFTA. That's all Britain (or England anyway) has ever wanted from Brussels.
Shouldn't young Millipede be busying himself with such family traditions as collectivising farms, rather than straying into the territory of poor old Pay-Cut Hoon, The Doormat for Europe?
"What are they going to do, throw the third biggest economy out of the EU because we won't regulate the bends in bananas to EU standards? "
Yep, read the treaty. No compliance = no membership. You can get away with doing it on the sly (many do), but open defiance would mean a succession of court cases, probably many of them brought by big British commercial interests.
The funny thing, of course, is that Clause 174 of the Finance (No 2) Bill does exactly the same.
But only for tax collection issues.
Addressing the first comment: as someone who has seen more than his share of alien activity - and the horrors at Hobbs End Tube - simply put, IT'S A COOKBOOK!!!!!
Although I'm inviting anti-EU invective, I'd like to point out that members of a free-trade zone do have a vested interest in common standards, shared specifications and agreed quality baselines.
Placing us in breach of those treaties would mean us leaving the EU. If EU law was unenforceable over such a large part of the community it would totally shatter the entire basis of the common market.
Yaay! Go for it!
I take all Dave's comments with a large pinch of (naughty) salt - what came first the dumbass comments or the salt?
Go tell it to the marines, Guido.
That's the only audience that will listen to you tories.
For you, our performance outside of the Eurozone is applauded only by jealous Italians.
What say the manufacturers who contend with the highest intrest rates in the world?
They want our free floating pound to save their skin and we want their intrest rates.
Compromise? Credible Government with the same rules.
That means Euro+constitution.
Gary
our performance outside of the Eurozone is applauded only by jealous Italians.
No-one else even the slightest bit upset with the euro? Are you sure?
What say the manufacturers who contend with the highest intrest rates in the world?
You mean in Zimbabwe?
Compromise? Credible Government with the same rules.That means Euro+constitution.
Compromise is for those that believe in nothing and credible government is a concept that is in direct contrast with the mess that is the EU. As for the same rules? Yes you want the Euro + Constitution, but why would anyone want the same rules? They'd have to be a bossy socialist.
Allianz just laid off half its staff in Frankfurt and has formed a new European Company - EIC or whatever so it can migrate from Germany
Maybe Miliband can explain why 250.000 Germans are emigrating each year - the highest level since 1949.
About the same number of Britons are escaping.
Sounds like the EU is sizzling along exporting the educated and importing the peasantry
Zimbabwe, a near death camp of an economy and you anti loons compare the British Empire with such an example.Is there no depth that you think sufficient for your party?
Manufacturers are not coping with this booming economy.
The £ is too strong, therefore the Euro is too weak.
Simple remedy dictates that we adopt the Euro for they will not adopt the £ with Hague in the background.
Thatcher disagrees with the rest of your negative viewpoint.
Hence your position in the world of politics.
can we nominate davey boy for press plagurist of the year now then?
"Go tell it to the marines, Guido.
That's the only audience that will listen to you tories."
All the marines I've known have been intelligent and direct with no bullshit about them. If they listen to us, we're probably talking a lot of sense.
I'd rather have them as an auidence than all the Guardian, Independent and Mirror readers combined.
So he reads yours as well, and Dale's, and mine, where does he find the time?
Has he less work to do than Prezza?
Miliband announces that the "Miliblog" cost just over 8000 pounds to set up and run, tonight.
http://www.odpm.gov.uk/cs/blogs/ministerial_blog/archive/2006/06/22/1203.aspx
It wasn't our supine judges, as suggested above, who have condemned us to EU Serfdom it was, and still is, a Civil Service that has insisted on not only enshrining just about all EU legislation into British law but also "gold plating" it (their own phrase) to make it completely watertight.
Unless and until we get a Government that stops this total abuse of the democratic process and our citizens, i.e. a Government that actually wishes to Govern as opposed to becoming a "delivery mechanism" for a Federal European superstate, then we are and will remain powerless in the face of the rise of the unelected technocrats who really govern us in the 21st Century.
Zimbabwe, a near death camp of an economy and you anti loons compare the British Empire with such an example.
You are either thick or deliberately ignoring things. You were the one who claimed that Britain had the world's highest interest rates. I simply pointed out, in a round about way, that such a statement was obviously false.
The £ is too strong, therefore the Euro is too weak. Simple remedy dictates that we adopt the Euro for they will not adopt the £ with Hague in the background.
No chance to devalue the pound in some way? Wouldn't joining the Euro at an inflated exchange rate simply screw us permanently?
Thatcher disagrees with the rest of your negative viewpoint. Hence your position in the world of politics.
You asked her specifically I suppose? As a Thatcherite, am I bound to follow her lead on everything? I had no idea I was a member of a cult.
'A free trade area like NAFTA can survive'
Two points.
Why have 'N' in the title? Why not open it up down south?
The so-called free trade area bullies British business with impunity. Bush has no problems at all in using protectionism to ease worries at home. What do you want little britain to do, cry?
Great Britain inside Europe informed George where the buck stops. The might of the EU works very much in our favour.
You Torie will soon see where and who British business supports.
Be warned you little Englander numpties.
So eu-serf wants to devalue sterling, does he? Be my guest, but first pass it by the Tory supporters club in their offshore paradise counting houses. Can't wait for the reply.
Rates at the wrong value would certainly screw us but I have every faith in our patience.
eu-serf, I am sorry if somehow I mistakely compared you to Thatcher (a great european). You are a numptie on the numptie side of Tory dreamland, where numpties play to their hearts content without any responsibility at all.
Enjoy.
Gary