These people who still insist on slagging off Cameron look increasingly like the sort of nutter who used to wear sandwich boards declaring "The End is Nigh". Their prophecies of doom keep falling flat, and yet they keep trying. I suppose we can admire that, then ignore them.
May 26, 2006 at 12:36 PM
Anonymous
said...
Not so thick and vacuous to get to this position. I think you underestimate him. In my view his is a two or three phase operation to win the next election. Phase two will see a change of tack away from chocolate oranges to focus on policy by which stage he will have housewives and the soft Tories who signed up to NL back on board.
May 26, 2006 at 12:38 PM
Anonymous
said...
I think Cameron has grown into the job and with luck he will grow into being a good PM.
He is a breath of fresh air and i hope that he will take labour out at the next election.
Andrew Jones
May 26, 2006 at 12:43 PM
Anonymous
said...
The end is neigh for the old guard of the Tory party - thank goodness! I can only welcome Cameron's defining anew Conservatism for a post-Blair Britain (and a way-post-facto Thatcher Conservatives). The Tories should never again allow themselves to be defined as the party of the Pigopolists. A pity Cameron can't mass-cull the old and young bigots out and allow (smug but cheerfully mercantile) professionals run the show.
Of course, I need to dig my head out of my physics books long enough to remember that any Tories I know actually have NO empathy at all for anyone not working within the Square Mile ... or happy families from Tonbridge and Sevenoaks.
Shame about the Lib Dems ... they really should be the party of the New Left (of Centre) and Labour should be rocketed back into the dustbin of the 20th Century where they rightfully belong.
Guido, er, the Lib Dems are polling a damned sight higher than for most of the time since the party was founded! 20% is better than through all Parliaments except the latter part of the last one.
Come now, the only thing the Lib Dems have stood for was as a viable alternative to suicide, and with Ming the merciless as leader it seems that euthanasia has entered the picture. Let's just imagine a rainbow of Young Conservatives, Yuppies and Old Codgers whacking the shit out of Labour at the next GE. It's a lovely thought.
May 26, 2006 at 12:58 PM
Anonymous
said...
gareth - LD ramping as usual : YouGov 16% not 20%
May 26, 2006 at 1:07 PM
Anonymous
said...
Anti-Cameron comments now deleted on this site. Interesting.
May 26, 2006 at 1:09 PM
Anonymous
said...
I hope the Tories win the next election. But winning is only the first step. If the Tories fail to undo much of the damage New Labour have done, and if they wreck the economy as they did in the 90s, Dave's office may be short lived just like Heath's, and we may have to wait for an equivalent of Thatcher to really sort the mess out. I hope this will not be the case.
May 26, 2006 at 1:10 PM
Anonymous
said...
I thought this was a "balls to the lot of them!" kinda blog, not an extension of Tory Central Office?
May 26, 2006 at 1:29 PM
Anonymous
said...
Lord Levy will probably be arrested by the end of the year
won't get as long as my former colleague Skilling though
YouGov have only 8% of the population wanting him to be PM.
K Harvey Proctor,
No, just comments that are crap for reasons previously outlined.
Eduded,
Balls to the lot of them. It seems only a few months ago that Tories were complaining that Guido was pro-Lib Dem. One thing is for sure, no-one has accused Guido of being pro-Brown.
May 26, 2006 at 1:40 PM
Anonymous
said...
If Lord Levy thinks he is likely to be arrested by the end of the year he will take a 'holiday' (beyond extradition) in Israel. Perhaps DAC Yates should question him under caution and only release him on police bail, requiring that he surrender his passport ?
SERO
May 26, 2006 at 1:51 PM
Anonymous
said...
"The LibDems are polling the worst since they were founded"
Far be it from me to defend the Lib Dems, but, alas they are not polling the worst since they were founded. In 1997 MORI had them at 9%, and in 1989 they were on an even more amusing 4% (behind the Greens in equal 4th place alongside Dr Death's continuing SDP, though you probably can't really compare until the death of the SDP).
I think Charlie Kennedy got equally feeble scores in Best PM questions at some point as well. Certainly he was at 9% in MORI's polls in 2001.
Well, he might win the election, and he might be a good leader, but he's still a cunt.
There's nothing quite as patronising as an old Etonian telling you not to overfill your kettle, or quite as down-dumbed as the next (but one) leader of the country proclaiming his love of Benny Hill on national radio!
May 26, 2006 at 2:23 PM
Anonymous
said...
"The Sun has abandoned Blair, gone cold on Brown and warmed to Cameron"
A fact that sends chills down my spine.
Does anyone know how many times Cameron has met with Murdoch: I believe that once Murdoch has bitten you three times he has you under his control.
When Murdoch supports Cameron we will not need to guess what policies Cameron has agreed to. We will be able to stop peeking up Dave's sleeves for clues...
May 26, 2006 at 2:27 PM
Anonymous
said...
I don't know who's writing this garbage but you are talking a load of bollocks!
85,000 new nurses, 10,500 new consultants and 1500 new doctors on responsible hours along with brand new hospitals.
all schools to be domolished rebuilt or refubished, more teachers than ever before and more results all round. more kids in college and being paid and 50% of kids in University.
And the Tories are running away with it all ? You must be joking. You are talking bollocks!!
Gary
May 26, 2006 at 2:31 PM
Anonymous
said...
You under estimate Blair and Labour. There will be no challenge at the conference. Blair's ship will steady and in a couple of months Labour will have overtaken the Tories in the polls again. Gordon (I'm no fan, btw) will soar in the polls when he is PM.
Even the Lib Dems will get their act together and dump Ming.
May 26, 2006 at 2:36 PM
Anonymous
said...
What makes you possibly think Brown will soar in the polls on becoming PM? Perhaps you haven't noticed the ever-increasing number of England flags on cars and houses, particularly in Labour-voting areas.
At a time of rising English patriotic feeling, choosing a dour Scot is perhaps the best way Labour can lose England (and thus the country) at the next election.
May 26, 2006 at 2:50 PM
Anonymous
said...
Kevin Maguire (who really should do a blog) in the New Statesman recalled overhearing a loud and enthusiastic Nick Clegg predicting such an event in the near future.
Have less than 8% previously wished for the Lib Dem leader to become PM? If not than this is truly the worst they have polled since being founded.
The Tories have polled better than Labour on their key health/education issues - shocker, go figure.
May 26, 2006 at 2:59 PM
Anonymous
said...
Most of these claims about polls etc. are wrong or ridiculous.
Today's Daily Telegraph is also quite wrong to claim that "David Cameron has achieved what no Conservative Leader since John Major...has managed: a six-point lead over New Labour."
YouGov reported leads of 8% for the Conservatives under Iain Duncan-Smith in June 2002 and 9% in December 2002. YouGov was still reporting a 5% Tory lead under Iain Duncan-Smith when Conservatives MPs decided that their prospects were so poor under him that he had to be ditched.
Michael Howard had leads of 5% in YouGov polls in January, February and March of 2004 - but made virtually no progress in increasing the Tory share of the vote in the General Election of May 2005.
In relation to the Liberal Democrats, it should be noted that three months after Paddy Ashdown became Leader the average Lib Dem poll rating was 8%. Three months after Charles Kennedy became Leader the average Lib Dem poll rating was 14%. Three months after Ming Campbell became Leader, the average Lib Dem poll rating is 20%.
May 26, 2006 at 3:01 PM
Anonymous
said...
It has always baffled me as to who these idiots are that actually believe a word Bliar says but I always had a sneaky suspicion their name would be either Gary, Sharon or Wayne!
If only 8% want Ming to be Prime Minister can we assume that a fair number of Lib Dem members do not want him to leader as well? Not that I am suggesting that the Lib Dems have a membership more than 8% of the population but one presumes the poll was weighted!
May 26, 2006 at 3:15 PM
Anonymous
said...
All true.
Still don't want the slimey fat faced rich Toff's in power though.
May 26, 2006 at 3:17 PM
Anonymous
said...
Does anyone know how many times Cameron has met with Murdoch: I believe that once Murdoch has bitten you three times he has you under his control.
Obviously didn't work with Andrew Neil.............I see Blair flies from DC to fly to CA to hear His Master's Voice at a News Intl Conference
May 26, 2006 at 3:25 PM
Anonymous
said...
Alas, Tonbridge has gone to the dogs I suppose. Cute castle on the hill, some smashing flowers in the spring, hot and loose young Tory blondes wandering around ... though not in the pound shops, nor by that abandoned Dunkin Doughnuts.
Re: The Scots. I would think Guido would welcome a good and proper Jacobite revolt in Westminster.
Re: Brown. Charisma-free, his words ooze out the corner of his mouth like old porridge. His early promise in setting the B of E free hasn't sustained his insane expenditures and we're all about to pay the piper for his excesses. Who the devil would willingly give him their vote? When he speaks, I just hear wah-wah-wah-wah-wah.
Re: Ming-a-Ding. Someone put the Lib Dem's "Old Yeller" (Old Yella?) down, please!
May 26, 2006 at 3:35 PM
Anonymous
said...
Gary you are asking for a Fisking. You don't really believe the Enron bullshit stats this Govt put out...or do you? I love the bit about '....responsible hours' as in you cant get a doctor at the weekend despite your lot of wankers giving them a daftly generous new contract because some twat of a Health Sec couldn't grasp fundamentals of what a GP does.
"We're on our way" one might be tempted to say. The New Labour project is mired in irreversible failure and despair. The Lib. Dems. have something of the corpse about them. And nobody likes Gordo. Including Murdo. And then there's the whole Iraq quagmire. But we are, alas, a long way from wringing a majority out of any of the above. And single largest party status would lead to an inevitable lib-Lab. deal.
Great news in today's poll. Before we all start irrigating our underwear with excitement, let's just remember that merely waiting for Labour to fuck it all up is one thing...
I want to see the Tories redefine the political machine. Otherwise they'll just be another talking shop a la Blair, whose victory was thanks to a band of gullible dweebs.
May 26, 2006 at 3:56 PM
Anonymous
said...
And here was me thingking this site was about parliamentary plots, rumours and conspiracies.
Looks more like a sounding board for the New Conservatives.
May 26, 2006 at 4:15 PM
Anonymous
said...
"What makes you possibly think Brown will soar in the polls on becoming PM? Perhaps you haven't noticed the ever-increasing number of England flags on cars and houses, particularly in Labour-voting areas..."
Could have something to do with a World Cup 3 weeks away don't you think?
May 26, 2006 at 4:26 PM
Anonymous
said...
taxi dermist - I agree with the Gary, Sharon or Wayne diagnosis and would add Tracy, Marilyn, Cherie and Duane.
May 26, 2006 at 4:40 PM
Anonymous
said...
I think Cameron has grown into the job and with luck he will grow into being a good PM.
He is a breath of fresh air and i hope that he will take labour out at the next election.
Andrew Jones
Humphrey the cat says replace blair with cameron and labour with conservatives and this could have been written in 1996...TUT TUT do some people never learn!!
And what about the 14% for others ie bnp, then greens then UKIP, there going up and up and I reckon will say hello to ming as he passes them on his way down.
May 26, 2006 at 5:09 PM
Anonymous
said...
johnny k ...... "Still don't want the slimey fat faced rich Toff's in power though"
You mean rick public School boys and girls... er... like Tony Blair... and most of his colleagues then?
May 26, 2006 at 5:45 PM
Anonymous
said...
Based on what he has said to date, I fear Cameron may have lost (but not for himself) before he has begun. If he is prepared to swallow (which is the impression I get) so much of what has been rammed dowm our throats by New Labour and the pc brigade, then he will have lost regardless of how many of his mates become MPs.
May 26, 2006 at 6:17 PM
Anonymous
said...
"And nobody likes Gordo. Including Murdo."
I thought the Mail had, strangely enough, become quite keen on him?
Every pic I have seen of Cameron shows him smiling and confident - and he has many reasons to. I don't think I have ever seen him looking glum. Am i right?
May 26, 2006 at 10:25 PM
Anonymous
said...
Cameron bends one into an open goal...magic...what a player...always knew he was the boy, etc
"50% of kids in University." = Another way to fiddle the figures for unemployment.
If you were sailing on HMS Labour, and Captain Blar didn't want to sail that direction, they'd just damage the compass to point to the direction they wanted to go in instead of turning the wheel!
May 27, 2006 at 12:12 PM
Anonymous
said...
I've noticed that there are some 'choice' words being displayed in here that some viewers may consider to be offernsive. Could everyone please offer a consideration to others and at least use asterix instead of vulgar words. Thank you.
That goes to all you f****** T*** w***** especially D****d C****** and will*** f****** Hag*e you bald headed f***** T**y w*****r. Give us some pol***es toss pots. Long live the Labour Party!!
Gary
May 27, 2006 at 1:55 PM
Anonymous
said...
50% of kids in university may be fiddling unemployment figures to you sunshine, but around here, just to see kids in university is a credit to Labour and Blair in particular.
The tories have no answers and they have no policies.A shame really considering it was once, a great political party.
Studying what? All labour have done is devalue a degree. In fact what has happened is that University is about teaching and lecturing rather than students learning. It has quite literally destroyed university.
May 28, 2006 at 8:38 PM
Anonymous
said...
Wood Street Conservative
Re "Actually we wrecked it between 87 and 90", I could not agree more but the problem is they carried on damaging the economy into the 90s.
I know they lost control in the late 80s as I was working in the City at the time. The Tories allowed demand to let rip which wasn't helped by cutting income tax to 40%, halving MIRAS but on a delayed basis, and keeping rates down post Black Monday (desirable though it was). They did not learn their lesson and screwed the economy into the ERM with disastrous consequences for many.
I realised what a balls up they were makin and downsized my property which made the 40 odd per cent fall in value more bearable, although it was a pain waiting almost a decade for it to return to the price I paid for it. Other people lost their homes with repossessions continuing into the late 90s and quite a few went bankrupt.
Apologies to Guido for the lack of humour, wit or relevance to this thread?
May 30, 2006 at 8:50 AM
Anonymous
said...
I really don't think you understand. The more you denigrate University students and their lifetimes achievements, the more you insult the parents. As the years roll by, the build up of graduates increases and the more people you insult. You Tories have got to make up your mind;are you going to continue with this type of verbal abuse or are you going to serious about education? This is one area that you are definitely failing and trailing to Labour. Personally, I'm all for you failing.It's your choice and your funeral. Gary
49 comments:
These people who still insist on slagging off Cameron look increasingly like the sort of nutter who used to wear sandwich boards declaring "The End is Nigh". Their prophecies of doom keep falling flat, and yet they keep trying. I suppose we can admire that, then ignore them.
Not so thick and vacuous to get to this position. I think you underestimate him. In my view his is a two or three phase operation to win the next election. Phase two will see a change of tack away from chocolate oranges to focus on policy by which stage he will have housewives and the soft Tories who signed up to NL back on board.
I think Cameron has grown into the job and with luck he will grow into being a good PM.
He is a breath of fresh air and i hope that he will take labour out at the next election.
Andrew Jones
The end is neigh for the old guard of the Tory party - thank goodness! I can only welcome Cameron's defining anew Conservatism for a post-Blair Britain (and a way-post-facto Thatcher Conservatives). The Tories should never again allow themselves to be defined as the party of the Pigopolists. A pity Cameron can't mass-cull the old and young bigots out and allow (smug but cheerfully mercantile) professionals run the show.
Of course, I need to dig my head out of my physics books long enough to remember that any Tories I know actually have NO empathy at all for anyone not working within the Square Mile ... or happy families from Tonbridge and Sevenoaks.
Shame about the Lib Dems ... they really should be the party of the New Left (of Centre) and Labour should be rocketed back into the dustbin of the 20th Century where they rightfully belong.
Guido, er, the Lib Dems are polling a damned sight higher than for most of the time since the party was founded! 20% is better than through all Parliaments except the latter part of the last one.
Come now, the only thing the Lib Dems have stood for was as a viable alternative to suicide, and with Ming the merciless as leader it seems that euthanasia has entered the picture.
Let's just imagine a rainbow of Young Conservatives, Yuppies and Old Codgers whacking the shit out of Labour at the next GE. It's a lovely thought.
gareth - LD ramping as usual : YouGov 16% not 20%
Anti-Cameron comments now deleted on this site. Interesting.
I hope the Tories win the next election. But winning is only the first step. If the Tories fail to undo much of the damage New Labour have done, and if they wreck the economy as they did in the 90s, Dave's office may be short lived just like Heath's, and we may have to wait for an equivalent of Thatcher to really sort the mess out. I hope this will not be the case.
I thought this was a "balls to the lot of them!" kinda blog, not an extension of Tory Central Office?
Lord Levy will probably be arrested by the end of the year
won't get as long as my former colleague Skilling though
I don't trust YouGov polls but 16%'s way better than most of the time pre-2001.
Tories still as boring as they are inaccurate I see...
Gareth,
YouGov have only 8% of the population wanting him to be PM.
K Harvey Proctor,
No, just comments that are crap for reasons previously outlined.
Eduded,
Balls to the lot of them. It seems only a few months ago that Tories were complaining that Guido was pro-Lib Dem. One thing is for sure, no-one has accused Guido of being pro-Brown.
If Lord Levy thinks he is likely to be arrested by the end of the year he will take a 'holiday' (beyond extradition) in Israel. Perhaps DAC Yates should question him under caution and only release him on police bail, requiring that he surrender his passport ?
SERO
"The LibDems are polling the worst since they were founded"
Far be it from me to defend the Lib Dems, but, alas they are not polling the worst since they were founded. In 1997 MORI had them at 9%, and in 1989 they were on an even more amusing 4% (behind the Greens in equal 4th place alongside Dr Death's continuing SDP, though you probably can't really compare until the death of the SDP).
I think Charlie Kennedy got equally feeble scores in Best PM questions at some point as well. Certainly he was at 9% in MORI's polls in 2001.
anonymous: "...and if they wreck the economy as they did in the 90s,"
Eloquent testimony to Orwell's "Ministry of Truth" - his name was Blair too wasn't it?
"It seems only a few months ago that Tories were complaining that Guido was pro-Lib Dem."
Didn't you apply to join them though? On that basis it would appear to be a perfectly reasonable assertion to make.
Well, he might win the election, and he might be a good leader, but he's still a cunt.
There's nothing quite as patronising as an old Etonian telling you not to overfill your kettle, or quite as down-dumbed as the next (but one) leader of the country proclaiming his love of Benny Hill on national radio!
"The Sun has abandoned Blair, gone cold on Brown and warmed to Cameron"
A fact that sends chills down my spine.
Does anyone know how many times Cameron has met with Murdoch: I believe that once Murdoch has bitten you three times he has you under his control.
When Murdoch supports Cameron we will not need to guess what policies Cameron has agreed to. We will be able to stop peeking up Dave's sleeves for clues...
I don't know who's writing this garbage but you are talking a load of bollocks!
85,000 new nurses, 10,500 new consultants and 1500 new doctors on responsible hours along with brand new hospitals.
all schools to be domolished rebuilt or refubished, more teachers than ever before and more results all round. more kids in college and being paid and 50% of kids in University.
And the Tories are running away with it all ?
You must be joking.
You are talking bollocks!!
Gary
You under estimate Blair and Labour. There will be no challenge at the conference. Blair's ship will steady and in a couple of months Labour will have overtaken the Tories in the polls again. Gordon (I'm no fan, btw) will soar in the polls when he is PM.
Even the Lib Dems will get their act together and dump Ming.
What makes you possibly think Brown will soar in the polls on becoming PM? Perhaps you haven't noticed the ever-increasing number of England flags on cars and houses, particularly in Labour-voting areas.
At a time of rising English patriotic feeling, choosing a dour Scot is perhaps the best way Labour can lose England (and thus the country) at the next election.
Kevin Maguire (who really should do a blog) in the New Statesman recalled overhearing a loud and enthusiastic Nick Clegg predicting such an event in the near future.
If I were a betting man...
Have less than 8% previously wished for the Lib Dem leader to become PM? If not than this is truly the worst they have polled since being founded.
The Tories have polled better than Labour on their key health/education issues - shocker, go figure.
Most of these claims about polls etc. are wrong or ridiculous.
Today's Daily Telegraph is also quite wrong to claim that "David Cameron has achieved what no Conservative Leader since John Major...has managed: a six-point lead over New Labour."
YouGov reported leads of 8% for the Conservatives under Iain Duncan-Smith in June 2002 and 9% in December 2002. YouGov was still reporting a 5% Tory lead under Iain Duncan-Smith when Conservatives MPs decided that their prospects were so poor under him that he had to be ditched.
Michael Howard had leads of 5% in YouGov polls in January, February and March of 2004 - but made virtually no progress in increasing the Tory share of the vote in the General Election of May 2005.
In relation to the Liberal Democrats, it should be noted that three months after Paddy Ashdown became Leader the average Lib Dem poll rating was 8%. Three months after Charles Kennedy became Leader the average Lib Dem poll rating was 14%. Three months after Ming Campbell became Leader, the average Lib Dem poll rating is 20%.
It has always baffled me as to who these idiots are that actually believe a word Bliar says but I always had a sneaky suspicion their name would be either Gary, Sharon or Wayne!
"50% of kids in University."
No doubt studying Mickey Mouse subjects.
If only 8% want Ming to be Prime Minister can we assume that a fair number of Lib Dem members do not want him to leader as well? Not that I am suggesting that the Lib Dems have a membership more than 8% of the population but one presumes the poll was weighted!
All true.
Still don't want the slimey fat faced rich Toff's in power though.
Does anyone know how many times Cameron has met with Murdoch: I believe that once Murdoch has bitten you three times he has you under his control.
Obviously didn't work with Andrew Neil.............I see Blair flies from DC to fly to CA to hear His Master's Voice at a News Intl Conference
Alas, Tonbridge has gone to the dogs I suppose. Cute castle on the hill, some smashing flowers in the spring, hot and loose young Tory blondes wandering around ... though not in the pound shops, nor by that abandoned Dunkin Doughnuts.
Re: The Scots. I would think Guido would welcome a good and proper Jacobite revolt in Westminster.
Re: Brown. Charisma-free, his words ooze out the corner of his mouth like old porridge. His early promise in setting the B of E free hasn't sustained his insane expenditures and we're all about to pay the piper for his excesses. Who the devil would willingly give him their vote? When he speaks, I just hear wah-wah-wah-wah-wah.
Re: Ming-a-Ding. Someone put the Lib Dem's "Old Yeller" (Old Yella?) down, please!
Gary you are asking for a Fisking. You don't really believe the Enron bullshit stats this Govt put out...or do you? I love the bit about '....responsible hours' as in you cant get a doctor at the weekend despite your lot of wankers giving them a daftly generous new contract because some twat of a Health Sec couldn't grasp fundamentals of what a GP does.
"We're on our way" one might be tempted to say. The New Labour project is mired in irreversible failure and despair. The Lib. Dems. have something of the corpse about them. And nobody likes Gordo. Including Murdo. And then there's the whole Iraq quagmire. But we are, alas, a long way from wringing a majority out of any of the above. And single largest party status would lead to an inevitable lib-Lab. deal.
Great news in today's poll. Before we all start irrigating our underwear with excitement, let's just remember that merely waiting for Labour to fuck it all up is one thing...
I want to see the Tories redefine the political machine. Otherwise they'll just be another talking shop a la Blair, whose victory was thanks to a band of gullible dweebs.
And here was me thingking this site was about parliamentary plots, rumours and conspiracies.
Looks more like a sounding board for the New Conservatives.
"What makes you possibly think Brown will soar in the polls on becoming PM? Perhaps you haven't noticed the ever-increasing number of England flags on cars and houses, particularly in Labour-voting areas..."
Could have something to do with a World Cup 3 weeks away don't you think?
taxi dermist - I agree with the Gary, Sharon or Wayne diagnosis and would add Tracy, Marilyn, Cherie and Duane.
I think Cameron has grown into the job and with luck he will grow into being a good PM.
He is a breath of fresh air and i hope that he will take labour out at the next election.
Andrew Jones
Humphrey the cat says replace blair with cameron and labour with conservatives and this could have been written in 1996...TUT TUT do some people never learn!!
And what about the 14% for others ie bnp, then greens then UKIP, there going up and up and I reckon will say hello to ming as he passes them on his way down.
johnny k ......
"Still don't want the slimey fat faced rich Toff's in power though"
You mean rick public School boys and girls... er... like Tony Blair... and most of his colleagues then?
Based on what he has said to date, I fear Cameron may have lost (but not for himself) before he has begun. If he is prepared to swallow (which is the impression I get) so much of what has been rammed dowm our throats by New Labour and the pc brigade, then he will have lost regardless of how many of his mates become MPs.
"And nobody likes Gordo. Including Murdo."
I thought the Mail had, strangely enough, become quite keen on him?
Every pic I have seen of Cameron shows him smiling and confident - and he has many reasons to. I don't think I have ever seen him looking glum. Am i right?
Cameron bends one into an open goal...magic...what a player...always knew he was the boy, etc
"50% of kids in University." = Another way to fiddle the figures for unemployment.
If you were sailing on HMS Labour, and Captain Blar didn't want to sail that direction, they'd just damage the compass to point to the direction they wanted to go in instead of turning the wheel!
I've noticed that there are some 'choice' words being displayed in here that some viewers may consider to be offernsive. Could everyone please offer a consideration to others and at least use asterix instead of vulgar words. Thank you.
That goes to all you f****** T*** w***** especially D****d C****** and will*** f****** Hag*e you bald headed f***** T**y w*****r.
Give us some pol***es toss pots.
Long live the Labour Party!!
Gary
50% of kids in university may be fiddling unemployment figures to you sunshine, but around here, just to see kids in university is a credit to Labour and Blair in particular.
The tories have no answers and they have no policies.A shame really considering it was once, a great political party.
Gary
Gary,
Studying what? All labour have done is devalue a degree. In fact what has happened is that University is about teaching and lecturing rather than students learning. It has quite literally destroyed university.
Wood Street Conservative
Re "Actually we wrecked it between 87 and 90", I could not agree more but the problem is they carried on damaging the economy into the 90s.
I know they lost control in the late 80s as I was working in the City at the time. The Tories allowed demand to let rip which wasn't helped by cutting income tax to 40%, halving MIRAS but on a delayed basis, and keeping rates down post Black Monday (desirable though it was). They did not learn their lesson and screwed the economy into the ERM with disastrous consequences for many.
I realised what a balls up they were makin and downsized my property which made the 40 odd per cent fall in value more bearable, although it was a pain waiting almost a decade for it to return to the price I paid for it. Other people lost their homes with repossessions continuing into the late 90s and quite a few went bankrupt.
Apologies to Guido for the lack of humour, wit or relevance to this thread?
I really don't think you understand. The more you denigrate University students and their lifetimes achievements, the more you insult the parents.
As the years roll by, the build up of graduates increases and the more people you insult.
You Tories have got to make up your mind;are you going to continue with this type of verbal abuse or are you going to serious about education?
This is one area that you are definitely failing and trailing to Labour.
Personally, I'm all for you failing.It's your choice and your funeral.
Gary