To be fair, none of that would be possible or currently sustainable without the EU.
February 14, 2006 at 11:47 AM
Anonymous
said...
oh and, total dominance of the catholic church over education. abortion is illegal. ryanair, as we saw on dispatches last night, are free to act with impunity. and the majority of eire's wealth is held in the hands of a few foreign bankers who funnily enough close themselves off from the rest of the irish population in their little glass bubble.
beegorra beegorra
February 14, 2006 at 11:56 AM
Anonymous
said...
not to mention a history since the 1920's based on a mythology of saint develera.
February 14, 2006 at 11:59 AM
Anonymous
said...
The present situation is a mere blip. Ireland is part of these islands and it will come back, one of these days. Real Tories don't reckon in mere decades. There's a reason your best and brightest all work for investment banks, pr enterprises and so forth in London. Oh, a few decades and this silly little tiff will all be forgotten! We are all for Irish unity - within the UK, of course.
That doesn't excuse ID cards, though, which are a mega-bore.
February 14, 2006 at 12:04 PM
Anonymous
said...
Bearing in mind it is easier to get a Green Card if you are Irish instead of British, surely Tony is going to use EIRE as makeweight for becoming the 51st state...... :D
February 14, 2006 at 12:15 PM
Anonymous
said...
If you want to comment about Ireland it might be an idea to get the name of my country right. Nobody here refers to it as Eire.
February 14, 2006 at 1:02 PM
Anonymous
said...
The use of Eire within the context of what I was saying was designed to hammer home a satirical point in regards Blair that you clearly didn't get.
But please, do tell me exactly what I can and can't do with my life, and exactly what I can and cannot have opinions on you patronising anonymous fucker.
All you know about me is my screen name, and on that basis you can make a judgement on what I can and cannot talk about? Can see why you were so touchy about the Blair reference then.....
February 14, 2006 at 1:19 PM
Anonymous
said...
So when's the implementation date? I've got about two years to go on my passport but quite frankly I'd rather renew it now and not have to get one of Tony's cards for ten years. Hopefully by then the system will have collapsed due to the dodgy technology and public resistance.
What's the basic rate of income tax in the Republic Guido? And why did the IRA make so much money smuggling fuel across the border?
February 14, 2006 at 2:26 PM
Anonymous
said...
The ROI rules! Definitely a better place (at the moment...) to be than the south of the UK (can't speak for the north). It's far easier to use an ROI passport in many countries than it is to use a UK one - lots of places in Africa for example will often slap on extra 'tariffs' for UK citizens because of their past reputation, whereas ROI citzens tend to get left alone. Also if you travel to Boston, you're related to everyone.
The Euro has staved off inflationary pressures - but the property market is an epic bubble. It may however be a very long lasting bubble...
Scottish Realist - the PDs had a pretty Thatcherite programme, that's part of why Ireland is such a success. We also had a great finance minister and a pro-business environment.
Anonymous - proof that everyone who posts anonymously is an idiot.
A Ghost...
Unity under the British crown? Shouldn't the British first get a British monarchy? Anyway Guido would rather be a free citizen than a humble subject. As for the Irish bankers and professionals in the City - well it is the financial capital of Europe - we're here for the money. Slainte!
Granny,
Marginal rates of income tax are lower than in the UK, corporate rates are lower. See the WSJ/Heritage Foundation Index of Economic Freedom for details (www.heritage.org/research/features/index/) .
I was only asking! And I have never met an Irishperson willing to admit paying tax anyway....
February 14, 2006 at 3:22 PM
Anonymous
said...
If ROI weren't so sickeningly Catholic I think you'd have alot less problems convincing those in the North of reunification. I have heard buying and registering a car in ROI is even more expensive than it is over here in the UK.
I would like to point out that if we (the British) hadn't shot the Irish disidents of 1915 uprising (or was it 1916?) then you would probably still be part of the UK. I reckon the ghost could be right. ;¬)
February 14, 2006 at 3:37 PM
Anonymous
said...
nice to see a benilux expectation coming from you crowd of idiot watchers from westminster. leave the irish alone they are doing fine and should get better as time goes by.
Kate Hoey (Vauxhall) (Lab): If identity cards are introduced, as has been suggested, will my right hon. Friend confirm that Irish citizens living in this country will not need to have any form of ID whatsoever?
Mr. Clarke: No, I am not saying that. The Bill applies to everyone who is legally resident in this country, including Irish citizens. Once it is compulsory to register, Irish citizens resident here would be obliged to register. The common travel area is unaffected in principle by that definition, although, as I told the right hon. Member for Haltemprice and Howden, a series of practical questions arise that are subject to active discussion in those circumstances. There is no requirement or need for the Irish Government to introduce an ID card system because of what our Government do—it is for the Irish Government to make their own decisions.
Following his contact with the Irish Government, the right hon. Gentleman suggested that they would actively consider whether it would be wise to introduce a card system if we did so. I am sure that they would do so in such circumstances, but the key issue is how properly to share information. Apart from any other consideration, there are serious political issues that need to be tackled very carefully.
February 14, 2006 at 4:32 PM
Anonymous
said...
Guido,
I hope you enjoy your freedom while it lasts.
The ID card scheme will only become truly functional when the EU constitution is passed, which carries a provision for an pan-European ID scheme.
The last chance for avoiding oppression is the likelihood the scheme won't work. It is truly sobering to consider the last bastion of freedom is the total incompetence of big government.
February 14, 2006 at 4:36 PM
Anonymous
said...
"Guido is working for the re-Catholicisation of England."
Guido, Don't expect to get very far. Don't get me wrong I have no problem with Catholics but I do have a problem with the Catholic Church. Only the good die young, how old was the last pope when he pegged out? ;¬)
February 14, 2006 at 4:45 PM
Anonymous
said...
I don't believe it will work for the same reasons T, but I do worry. If the CSA is bonfire of banknotes this one's going to be an inferno.
February 14, 2006 at 5:13 PM
Anonymous
said...
Are you anti monarchy then Guido??? Not your avatar, but you personally?
February 14, 2006 at 5:40 PM
Anonymous
said...
Guido, why are you so bothered that the British monarchy be "British"?
At present it's like the British people are - from all over the place. What's so awful about that?
Or are you one of those 'foreigners go home' types - with 'foreigner' meaning people whose grandparents didn't live here?
Some liberal, eh?
February 14, 2006 at 8:13 PM
Anonymous
said...
I'd like it if we were a Republic, but I'd love a proper voting system even more. PR, is it an impossible dream?
This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
February 15, 2006 at 7:19 PM
Anonymous
said...
The idea of re-catholicisation of the Islands is paramount in the relms of civilizing them. I still think a benilux arrangment to stave off the French German and in the future, Russian influence in the EU.
February 16, 2006 at 9:47 AM
Anonymous
said...
Ha! One of the most over-rated countries in the world, like New Zealand, the equivalent of someone who shackled himself to a ball and chain for decades and then goes around telling people how fast he can run without them.
Only fifteen years ago the Republic was the Albania of northwest Europe. Now because they've caught up with the rest of the civilised world and stopped kow-towing to kiddy-fiddling cardinals in Rome, they think they can call us "down-trodden subjects?"
So Ireland has an elected President as head of state. Whoopee. One that could be forced out of office by a government minister - Cearball Ó Dalaigh in 1976.
However, the Irish aren't allowed to elect their upper house of parliament, which Dev emsasculated and turned into a corporative chamber cum resting place for people trying to get into the lower house.
As for the revival of the Irish language, Irish independence didn't help it one jot. What's the point in calling institutions of state by Irish names when most Taosigh and Teachtaí Dála can only speak English? The Welsh were right to put cultural self-determination first.
By the way, Irish citizens WILL need a passport to enter Britain (though not Northern Ireland) from 2009.
32 comments:
So why do you live in London and hang around the Westminster scene, then Guido?
Examine your premises.
Of course, we also have the euro.
To be fair, none of that would be possible or currently sustainable without the EU.
oh and, total dominance of the catholic church over education.
abortion is illegal.
ryanair, as we saw on dispatches last night, are free to act with impunity.
and the majority of eire's wealth is held in the hands of a few foreign bankers who funnily enough close themselves off from the rest of the irish population in their little glass bubble.
beegorra beegorra
not to mention a history since the 1920's based on a mythology of saint develera.
The present situation is a mere blip. Ireland is part of these islands and it will come back, one of these days. Real Tories don't reckon in mere decades. There's a reason your best and brightest all work for investment banks, pr enterprises and so forth in London. Oh, a few decades and this silly little tiff will all be forgotten! We are all for Irish unity - within the UK, of course.
That doesn't excuse ID cards, though, which are a mega-bore.
Bearing in mind it is easier to get a Green Card if you are Irish instead of British, surely Tony is going to use EIRE as makeweight for becoming the 51st state...... :D
If you want to comment about Ireland it might be an idea to get the name of my country right. Nobody here refers to it as Eire.
The use of Eire within the context of what I was saying was designed to hammer home a satirical point in regards Blair that you clearly didn't get.
But please, do tell me exactly what I can and can't do with my life, and exactly what I can and cannot have opinions on you patronising anonymous fucker.
All you know about me is my screen name, and on that basis you can make a judgement on what I can and cannot talk about? Can see why you were so touchy about the Blair reference then.....
So when's the implementation date? I've got about two years to go on my passport but quite frankly I'd rather renew it now and not have to get one of Tony's cards for ten years. Hopefully by then the system will have collapsed due to the dodgy technology and public resistance.
RM
Bugger just had to renew mine!
What's the basic rate of income tax in the Republic Guido? And why did the IRA make so much money smuggling fuel across the border?
The ROI rules! Definitely a better place (at the moment...) to be than the south of the UK (can't speak for the north). It's far easier to use an ROI passport in many countries than it is to use a UK one - lots of places in Africa for example will often slap on extra 'tariffs' for UK citizens because of their past reputation, whereas ROI citzens tend to get left alone. Also if you travel to Boston, you're related to everyone.
Mohock,
The Euro has staved off inflationary pressures - but the property market is an epic bubble. It may however be a very long lasting bubble...
Scottish Realist - the PDs had a pretty Thatcherite programme, that's part of why Ireland is such a success. We also had a great finance minister and a pro-business environment.
Anonymous - proof that everyone who posts anonymously is an idiot.
A Ghost...
Unity under the British crown? Shouldn't the British first get a British monarchy? Anyway Guido would rather be a free citizen than a humble subject. As for the Irish bankers and professionals in the City - well it is the financial capital of Europe - we're here for the money. Slainte!
Granny,
Marginal rates of income tax are lower than in the UK, corporate rates are lower. See the WSJ/Heritage Foundation Index of Economic Freedom for details (www.heritage.org/research/features/index/) .
I was only asking! And I have never met an Irishperson willing to admit paying tax anyway....
If ROI weren't so sickeningly Catholic I think you'd have alot less problems convincing those in the North of reunification. I have heard buying and registering a car in ROI is even more expensive than it is over here in the UK.
I would like to point out that if we (the British) hadn't shot the Irish disidents of 1915 uprising (or was it 1916?) then you would probably still be part of the UK. I reckon the ghost could be right. ;¬)
nice to see a benilux expectation coming from you crowd of idiot watchers from westminster. leave the irish alone they are doing fine and should get better as time goes by.
"Sickeningly Catholic" - hmmm.
Guido is working for the re-Catholicisation of England.
Anonymous - what are you on about?
The PDs-that Liberal Party?
but is Guido worried about this?:
Kate Hoey (Vauxhall) (Lab): If identity cards are introduced, as has been suggested, will my right hon. Friend confirm that Irish citizens living in this country will not need to have any form of ID whatsoever?
Mr. Clarke: No, I am not saying that. The Bill applies to everyone who is legally resident in this country, including Irish citizens. Once it is compulsory to register, Irish citizens resident here would be obliged to register. The common travel area is unaffected in principle by that definition, although, as I told the right hon. Member for Haltemprice and Howden, a series of practical questions arise that are subject to active discussion in those circumstances. There is no requirement or need for the Irish Government to introduce an ID card system because of what our Government do—it is for the Irish Government to make their own decisions.
Following his contact with the Irish Government, the right hon. Gentleman suggested that they would actively consider whether it would be wise to introduce a card system if we did so. I am sure that they would do so in such circumstances, but the key issue is how properly to share information. Apart from any other consideration, there are serious political issues that need to be tackled very carefully.
Guido,
I hope you enjoy your freedom while it lasts.
The ID card scheme will only become truly functional when the EU constitution is passed, which carries a provision for an pan-European ID scheme.
The last chance for avoiding oppression is the likelihood the scheme won't work. It is truly sobering to consider the last bastion of freedom is the total incompetence of big government.
"Guido is working for the re-Catholicisation of England."
Guido,
Don't expect to get very far. Don't get me wrong I have no problem with Catholics but I do have a problem with the Catholic Church. Only the good die young, how old was the last pope when he pegged out? ;¬)
I don't believe it will work for the same reasons T, but I do worry. If the CSA is bonfire of banknotes this one's going to be an inferno.
Are you anti monarchy then Guido??? Not your avatar, but you personally?
Guido, why are you so bothered that the British monarchy be "British"?
At present it's like the British people are - from all over the place. What's so awful about that?
Or are you one of those 'foreigners go home' types - with 'foreigner' meaning people whose grandparents didn't live here?
Some liberal, eh?
I'd like it if we were a Republic, but I'd love a proper voting system even more. PR, is it an impossible dream?
Re-Catholicisation of England?
Buddhistisation more likely especially with a bit of help from trendy Dave.Clearly he believes in re-birth.
David,
20% income tax!
FJMS,
Guido used to like Kate Hoey.
The idea of re-catholicisation of the Islands is paramount in the relms of civilizing them. I still think a benilux arrangment to stave off the French German and in the future, Russian influence in the EU.
Ha! One of the most over-rated countries in the world, like New Zealand, the equivalent of someone who shackled himself to a ball and chain for decades and then goes around telling people how fast he can run without them.
Only fifteen years ago the Republic was the Albania of northwest Europe. Now because they've caught up with the rest of the civilised world and stopped kow-towing to kiddy-fiddling cardinals in Rome, they think they can call us "down-trodden subjects?"
So Ireland has an elected President as head of state. Whoopee. One that could be forced out of office by a government minister - Cearball Ó Dalaigh in 1976.
However, the Irish aren't allowed to elect their upper house of parliament, which Dev emsasculated and turned into a corporative chamber cum resting place for people trying to get into the lower house.
As for the revival of the Irish language, Irish independence didn't help it one jot. What's the point in calling institutions of state by Irish names when most Taosigh and Teachtaí Dála can only speak English? The Welsh were right to put cultural self-determination first.
By the way, Irish citizens WILL need a passport to enter Britain (though not Northern Ireland) from 2009.